On the ‘Iglesia ni Cristo’ Church

The Iglesia ni Cristo (Tagalog, “Church of Christ”) claims to be the true Church established by Christ. Felix Manalo, its founder, proclaimed himself God’s prophet. Many tiny sects today claim to be the true Church, and many individuals claim to be God’s prophet. What makes Iglesia ni Cristo different is that it is not as tiny as others.

Since it was founded in the Philippines in 1914, it has grown to more than two hundred congregations in sixty-seven countries outside the Philippines, including an expanding United States contingent. The Iglesia keeps the exact number of members secret, but it is estimated to be between three million and ten million worldwide. It is larger than the Jehovah’s Witnesses, a better known sect (which also claims to be Christ’s true Church). Iglesia is not better known, despite its numbers, because the majority of Iglesia’s members are Filipino. Virtually the only exceptions are a few non-Filipinos who have married into Iglesia families.

The organization publishes two magazines, Pasugo and God’s Message, which devote most of their energies toward condemning other Christian churches, especially the Catholic Church. The majority of the Iglesia’s members are ex-Catholics. The Philippines is the only dominantly Catholic nation in the Far East, with eighty-four percent of its population belonging to the Church. Since this is its largest potential source of converts, Iglesia relies on anti-Catholic scare tactics as support for its own doctrines, which cannot withstand biblical scrutiny. The Iglesia tries to convince people of its doctrines not by proving they are right, but by attempting to prove the Catholic Church’s teachings are wrong.

 

Is Christ God?

 

The Catholic teaching that most draws Iglesia’s fire is Christ’s divinity. Like the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Iglesia claims that Jesus Christ is not God but a created being.

Yet the Bible is clear: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1). We know Jesus is the Word because John 1:14 tells us, “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.” God the Father was not made flesh; it was Jesus, as even Iglesia admits. Jesus is the Word, the Word is God, therefore Jesus is God. Simple, yet Iglesia won’t accept it.

In Deuteronomy 10:17 and 1 Timothy 6:15, God the Father is called the “Lord of lords,” yet in other New Testament passages this divine title is applied directly to Jesus. In Revelation 17:14 we read, “They will make war on the Lamb, and the Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings.” And in Revelation 19:13–16, John sees Jesus “clad in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. . . . On his thigh he has a name inscribed, King of kings and Lord of lords.”

The fact that Jesus is God is indicated in numerous places in the New Testament. John 5:18 states that Jewish leaders sought to kill Jesus “because he not only broke the Sabbath but also called God his Father, making himself equal with God.” Paul also states that Jesus was equal with God (Phil. 2:6). But if Jesus is equal with the Father, and the Father is a God, then Jesus is a God. Since there is only one God, Jesus and the Father must both be one God—one God in at least two persons (the Holy Spirit, of course, is the third person of the Trinity).

The same is shown in John 8:56–59, where Jesus directly claims to be Yahweh (“I AM”). “‘Your father Abraham rejoiced that he was to see my day; he saw it and was glad.’ The Jews then said to him, ‘You are not yet fifty years old, and you have seen Abraham?’ Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.’ So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple.” Jesus’ audience understood exactly what he was claiming; that is why they picked up rocks to stone him. They considered him to be b.aspheming God by claiming to be Yahweh.

The same truth is emphasized elsewhere. Paul stated that we are to live “awaiting our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ” (Titus 2:13). And Peter addressed his second epistle to “those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours in the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ” (2 Pet. 1:1).

Jesus is shown to be God most dramatically when Thomas, finally convinced that Jesus has risen, falls down and exclaims, “My Lord and my God!” (John 20:28)—an event many in Iglesia have difficulty dealing with. When confronted with this passage in a debate with Catholic Answers founder Karl Keating, Iglesia apologist Jose Ventilacion replied with a straight face, “Thomas was wrong.”

 

God’s Messenger?

 

A litmus test for any religious group is the credibility of its founder in making his claims. Felix Manalo’s credibility and, consequently, his claims, are impossible to take seriously. He claimed to be “God’s messenger,” divinely chosen to re-establish the true Church which, according to Manalo, disappeared in the first century due to apostasy. It was his role to restore numerous doctrines that the Church had abandoned. A quick look at Manalo’s background shows where these doctrines came from: Manalo stole them from other quasi-Christian religious sects.

Manalo was baptized a Catholic, but he left the Church as a teen. He became a Protestant, going through five different denominations, including the Seventh-day Adventists. Finally, Manalo started his own church in 1914. In 1919, he left the Philippines because he wanted to learn more about religion. He came to America, to study with Protestants, whom Iglesia would later declare to be apostates, just like Catholics. Why, five years after being called by God to be his “last messenger,” did Manalo go to the U.S. to learn from apostates? What could God’s messenger learn from a group that, according to Iglesia, had departed from the true faith?

The explanation is that, contrary to his later claims, Manalo did not believe himself to be God’s final messenger in 1914. He didn’t use the last messenger doctrine until 1922. He appears to have adopted the messenger doctrine in response to a schism in the Iglesia movement. The schism was led by Teogilo Ora, one of its early ministers. Manalo appears to have developed the messenger doctrine to accumulate power and re-assert his leadership in the church.

This poses a problem for Iglesia, because if Manalo had been the new messenger called by God in 1914, why didn’t he tell anybody prior to 1922? Because he didn’t think of it until 1922. His situation in this respect parallels that of Mormonism’s founder Joseph Smith, who claimed that when he was a boy, God appeared to him in a vision and told him all existing churches were corrupt and he was not to join them, that he would lead a movement to restore God’s true Church. But historical records show that Smith did join an inquirer’s class at an established Protestant church after his supposed vision from God. It was only in later years that Smith came up with his version of the “true messenger” doctrine, proving as much of an embarrassment for the Mormon church as Manalo’s similar doctrine does for Iglesia.

 

Iglesia Prophesied?

 

A pillar of Iglesia belief is that its emergence in the Philippines was prophesied in the Bible. This idea is supposedly found in Isaiah 43:5–6, which states, “Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your offspring from the east, and from the west I will gather you; I will say to the north, ‘Give up,’ and the south, ‘Do not withhold; bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the end of the earth.’”

Iglesia argues that in this verse, Isaiah is referring to the “far east” and that this is the place where the “Church of Christ” will emerge in the last days. This point is constantly repeated in Iglesia literature: “The prophecy stated that God’s children shall come from the far east” (Pasugo, March 1975, 6).

But the phrase “far east” is not in the text. In fact, in the Tagalog (Filipino) translation, as well as in the original Hebrew, the words “far” and “east” are not even found in the same verse, yet the Iglesia recklessly combine the two verses to translate “far east.” Using this fallacious technique, Iglesia claims that the far east refers to the Philippines.

Iglesia is so determined to convince its followers of this “fact” that it quotes Isaiah 43:5 from an inexact paraphrase by Protestant Bible scholar James Moffatt that reads, “From the far east will I bring your offspring.” Citing this mistranslation, one Iglesia work states, “Is it not clear that you can read the words ‘far east’? Clear! Why does not the Tagalog Bible show them? That is not our fault, but that of those who translated the Tagalog Bible from English—the Catholics and Protestants” (Isang Pagbubunyag Sa Iglesia ni Cristo, 1964:131). The Iglesia accuses everyone else of mistranslating the Bible, when it is Iglesia that is taking liberties with the original language.

 

The Name Game

 

Iglesia points to its name as proof it is the true Church. They argue, “What is the name of Christ’s Church, as given in the Bible? It is the ‘Church of Christ.’ Our church is called the ‘Church of Christ.’ Therefore, ours is the Church Christ founded.”

Whether or not the exact words “Church of Christ” appear in the Bible is irrelevant, but since Iglesia makes it an issue, it is important to note that the phrase “Church of Christ” never once appears in the Bible.

The verse Iglesia most often quotes on this issue is Romans 16:16: “Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ greet you ” (Pasugo, November 1973, 6). But the phrase in this verse is “churches of Christ.” And it’s not a technical name. Paul is referring to a collection of local churches, not giving an organizational name.

To get further “proof” of its name, Iglesia cites Acts 20:28: “Take heed therefore . . . to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood” (Lamsa translation; cited in Pasugo, April 1978). But the Lamsa translation is not based on the original Greek, the language in which the book of Acts was written. In Greek, the phrase is “the church of God” (tan ekklasian tou Theou) not “the church of Christ” (tan ekklasian tou Christou). Iglesia knows this, yet it continues to mislead its members.

Even if the phrase “church of Christ” did appear in the Bible, it would not help Iglesia’s case. Before Manalo started his church, there were already groups calling themselves “the Church of Christ.” There are several Protestant denominations that call themselves Church of Christ and use exactly the same argument. Of course, they aren’t the true Church for the same reason Iglesia isn’t—because they were not founded by Christ.

 

Did Christ’s Church Apostatize?

 

The doctrines upon which all Iglesia’s other doctrines depend is its teaching that Christ’s Church apostatized in the early centuries. Like Mormonism, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and other fringe groups, Iglesia asserts that the early Christian Church suffered a total apostasy. It believes in “the complete disappearance of the first-century Church of Christ and the emergence of the Catholic Church” (Pasugo, July-Aug. 1979, 8).

But Jesus promised that his Church would never apostatize. He told Peter, “And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it” (Matt. 16:18). If his Church had apostatized, then the gates of hell would have prevailed against it, making Christ a liar.

In other passages, Christ teaches the same truth. In Matthew 28:20 he said, “I am with you always even until the end of the world.” And in John 14:16, 18 he said, “And I will pray to the Father, and he will give you another Counselor, to be with you forever … I will not leave you desolate.”

If Iglesia members accept the apostasy doctrine, they make Christ a liar. Since they believe Jesus Christ is not a liar, they are ignoring what Christ promised, and their doctrine contradicts Scripture.

They are, however, fulfilling Scripture. While Jesus taught that his Church would never apostatize, the Bible does teach that there will be a great apostasy, or falling away from the Church. Paul prophesies: “[Do not] be quickly shaken in mind or excited . . . to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion [Greek: apostasia] comes first” (2 Thess. 2:2–3); “Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons” (1 Tim. 4:1); and, “For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own liking, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths” (2 Tim. 4:3–4). By falling away from the Church, members of Iglesia are committing precisely the kind of apostasy of which they accuse the Catholic Church.

The Bible tells us in 1 John 4:1: “Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world.” Was Felix Manalo a true prophet? Is his church the “true Church?” If we test the claims of Iglesia ni Cristo, the answer is apparent. His total apostasy doctrine is in flat contradiction to Christ’s teaching. Th









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156 comments

  1. Damian Reply

    Thank You… this helps me understand my Church… proud to be Catholic..

    1. Ren Reply

      Me too.. It’s help me a lot. Proud to be Catholic 🙂

    2. Whin A. Alva Reply

      The Main Doctrine of the INC, is to destroy the Church founded by CHRIST himself tru St. Peter.

  2. Illuminati Reply

    The problem with Christianity in the Philippines (include all denominations is the lack of foundation yes including Catholics as very few Catholics learned catechism, they’re fundamentalists, benevolent, and simply idiots). There are many interesting subjects when talking about religion and that includes ecumenism.Mas makabubuti sa mga kritiyano kung pag-aralan nila ang ibang relihiyon lalo na ang mga sinauna katulad ng hinduismo, budismo, shintoismo, confucianismo, etc para maintindihan ang pagkakaugnay ng mga relihiyon. Hindi yung kristiyano sa kristiyano nagpapasiklaban kung sinong maliligtas. Punyeta hindi kristiyanismo at judaism ang mga naunang relihiyon sa mundo, so yung mga sinaunang tao ganun na lang ba hindi sila naligtas gayong gumawa rin sila ng mabuti at kabanal-banalan? Isep isep din ng malawak pag may time!

    1. Mikael Reply

      Crux Sacra sit mihi Lux
      Non draco sit mihi dux
      Vade Retro Satana!
      Nunquam Suade mihi vana
      Sunt mala quae libas
      Ipse Venena bibas!!!!

      1. Illuminati Reply

        Dead language na ang latin, paki-translate nga po, mga baklang putang pari at pokpok na mga seminarista na lang ang gumagamit ng latin tanga.

        1. Ivan Azupardo Reply

          Sabihan mo kami na magresearch tungkol sa ibang religion tapos idedeny mo lang na totoo ang mga yun. Sabihin mo na mali rin yung ibang rehiliyon.
          Kahit nga Illuminati, hindi ang unang religion, diba?! Sino ang nagbigay sayo ng karapatan para pagsabihan kami? Sino ka para tawagin ng tanga kaming mga Katoliko? Anong makukuha mo sa ginagawa mo?
          Hinding-hindi mo talaga kami maintindihan kasi imbis na ikaw mismo ang magstudy tungkol sa amin or ibang rehiliyon, ikaw pa ang nag-tanga-tanga dito na mag-comment sa isang article sa website ng isang rehiliyon na hindi ka naman naniniwala. PLEASE, wag mag-tanga-tanga. Ikaw rin, isip-isip rin pag may time….

          1. mimi

            I agree with you 🙂
            im still a proud catholic!

        2. abubut Reply

          gago ka ba ah…. bakit mo minumura mga pari tanga ka din no bakit di mo itranslate nakapag net ka nga e!

          1. Orly

            Peace be to you. God loves you immensely.

        3. dead sea Reply

          mas tanga ka. go to hell

          1. Orly

            Peace be to you. God loves you immensely.

        4. doceo Reply

          ipaalam ko po sayo na hindi lang po ang mga pari at seminarista ang gumagamit ng Latin kahit po ang mga lawyer, ang mga miembro ng academe ginagamit parin po ang salitang iyon…. alam mo po ba ang ibig sabihin ng “dead language” sana oo… kaya po kung alam mo po yun ginamit mong salita (dead language) kuha ka po ng dictionary o search mo sa web at kaya mo na pong i translate ang salaysay na latin saitaas… kasi kung ano ung sulat nyan iyon na ung kahulugan…. good luck 🙂 NB: by the way ang name mo pong “Illuminati” latin din po sya… (FYI)…

        5. dead sea Reply

          ang tanga ay bumabalik sa yo dahil ang salitang illuminati ay latin word din yon. TANGA!

        6. eox Reply

          Mr. IIIuminati…it seems ur under the spell of evil. Pls. before ka mag.comment ng ganito dapat magdasal ka muna para maenlighten ung utak mo. Simple lng yan try to search the history of Christianity deeply. Trace back the history of Christianity from the beginning and humingi ka ng tulong sa mga historian and nagtranslate lng mga salita. Wag kang magreact lng ganyan kun hindi mo pa naresearch ang history ng Kritiyanismo.

        7. CFD Reply

          No bad words. Pls. Baka ang ina mo ang puta. Mga kapatid mo pokpok din. Yan ang itinutoro ng simbahan ninyo?

        8. BoBong Illuminati Reply

          Alam mo ang katulad mo dapat Yung wala dito e, e kung sa gusto niyang gumamit ng Latin e hayaan mo na TANGA.

        9. kune Reply

          Dasal po yan para sa mga katulad mo na kampon ni satanas, translate ko para sayo

          Crux Sacra sit mihi Lux- May the holy cross be my light
          Non draco sit mihi dux-let the devil not be my leader
          Vade Retro Satana!- Get behind me satan
          Nunquam Suade mihi vana- Dont persuade me of wicked things
          Sunt mala quae libas- What you are showing me is bad
          Ipse Venena bibas!!!!-Drink your poisons yourself.

          Intiendes-spanish
          malom-arabic
          capisce-italian

        10. abel Reply

          wag kang magmura at kung totoo ka pakilala mo tunay mong pangalan wag alyas lang.

        11. MariaEugeniaNinoAngeles of St Simon Stock Reply

          These Latin initials are from the medal of the first medal approved by the Church in 5th century,St Benedict known to frighten the devil n protection from their lies n enticement. It’s also a protection against calamities of land and sea which includes earthquakes,tsunami, accidents, sudden death n many more. Many testimonials you can find in the Internet.

    2. Iggy Reply

      Salamat! Amen! Back to basics tayo pero nasan na ang mga magtuturo.. ni mga magulang ng mga bata” hilaw” ang alam sa ating mga pananampalataya kya madaling maniwala at mahatak ng ibang relihiyon.

    3. Paul Gerard Antonio Saret Reply

      The word catholic itself means universal. The church does not condemn other religions; we in fact hope that everyone will be brought in union with Christ. In our community, we are not even particular about Catholicism…we even encourage other Christians (INC is not a Christian church) to be faithful to their own traditions. Jesus came so that everyone might be saved…and he came even for those who died before Christianity. It is good to understand and know about other religions…but there is only one Way, Truth and Life. Nobody comes to the Father but through Christ…it is written, and it shall be so.

    4. Jojo Reply

      1 John 4:1: “Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world."
      Battle between good and evil won’t end until Our Savior comes again and redeems God’s Kingdom. It is not about what religion has existed first, but which is truly founded by the Lord. We study those religions in order to know their origin, whether their existence is through the Power of the Almighty God. Only one Church is founded by Jesus Christ, the Catholic Church (“And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18)), the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. One can be saved if he professes his faith in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as one, true and eternal God and works on it. So what religion teaches this? It’s still the Catholic Church. That’s why the Catholic Church is necessary for the human’s salvation:

      846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? 335 Reformulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

      Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. 336 (Catechism of the Catholic Church)

      Lactantius (Church Father)

      “It is, therefore, the Catholic Church alone, which retains true worship. This is the fountain of truth; this, the domicile of faith; this, the temple of God. Whoever does not enter there or whoever does not go out from there, he is a stranger to the hope of life and salvation. . . . Because, however, all the various groups of heretics are confident that they are the Christians and think that theirs is the Catholic Church, let it be known that this is the true Church, in which there is confession and penance and which takes a health-promoting care of the sins and wounds to which the weak flesh is subject” (Divine Institutes 4:30:11–13 [A.D. 307]).

      In short, the Catholic Church is the universal sacrament of salvation.

      847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

      Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation. 337

      So if one didn’t know Christ and His Church, but sought God through their conscience would also be saved.

      I hope you’ll be enlightened and seek God through the true and universal Church.

    5. Louie Reply

      @ Illuminati; I suggest to wash your mouth.

    6. DKBM Reply

      Mali ka, Illuminati. Ang tinuturo ng Simbahang Katoliko ay hindi kasalanan ng mga sinaunang tao kung hindi sila nabuhay sa panahon ni Kristo kaya hindi mo maaaring sabihin na hindi sila nailigtas kahit gumawa sila ng kabutihan at kabanalan.

  3. jomelyn gregorio Reply

    That’s why I proud to be INC’ no need to explain, that’s it,

    1. Ecm Ecm Reply

      inintindi mo ba ang binasa mo? or your just denying na mas katotohanan ang sinasabi na mga katoliko? ang hirap kasi sainyo, paiba-iba ang doctrine niyo.

      1. chuchu Reply

        Kung makapagsalita ka naman kala mo kung sino ka palibhasa hindi ka INC hindi mo nararamdaman yung mga masasakit na salita na sinasabi mo sami.!

        1. DKBM Reply

          Hindi ba’t puro masasakit na salita rin naman ang nakukuha naming mga Katoliko sa inyo? E pag kumukuha nga kayo ng mga miyembro, focus kayo sa paninira sa Simbahang Katolika.

          1. Ar. Pat

            Tama ka diyan DKBM, kasi halos lahat ng laman ng Pasugo nila ay paninira lang sa mga Katoliko para makapangloko sila at makadagit ng mahihina ang pananampalataya.

    2. vincemark Reply

      Blind follower, as expected!

    3. dead sea Reply

      pipipearahan ka lang ng pamilya manalo. talagang mananalo sila sa kanilang mga nauutong mga sumasali sa panlilinlang ni manalo.

    4. Jojo Reply

      1 John 4:1: “Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world."
      Battle between good and evil won’t end until Our Savior comes again and redeems God’s Kingdom. It is not about what religion has existed first, but which is truly founded by the Lord. We study those religions in order to know their origin, whether their existence is through the Power of the Almighty God. Only one Church is founded by Jesus Christ, the Catholic Church (“And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18)), the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. One can be saved if he professes his faith in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as one, true and eternal God and works on it. So what religion teaches this? It’s still the Catholic Church. That’s why the Catholic Church is necessary for the human’s salvation:

      846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? 335 Reformulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

      Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. 336 (Catechism of the Catholic Church)

      Lactantius

      “It is, therefore, the Catholic Church alone, which retains true worship. This is the fountain of truth; this, the domicile of faith; this, the temple of God. Whoever does not enter there or whoever does not go out from there, he is a stranger to the hope of life and salvation. . . . Because, however, all the various groups of heretics are confident that they are the Christians and think that theirs is the Catholic Church, let it be known that this is the true Church, in which there is confession and penance and which takes a health-promoting care of the sins and wounds to which the weak flesh is subject” (Divine Institutes 4:30:11–13 [A.D. 307]).

      In short, the Catholic Church is the universal sacrament of salvation.

      847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

      Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation. 337

      So if one didn’t know Christ and His Church, but sought God through their conscience would also be saved.

      I hope you’ll be enlightened and seek God through the true and universal Church, jomelyn gregorio

    5. The hurt Reply

      Any religion or denomination claiming that they are the true religion or they are the only one who will be saved, are definitely way out of their heads! Theres no such thing as the only true religion! Nothing in the Bible says so! If somebody will read a passage from the Bible telling you about a SPECIFIC religion to be the only true religion, then congratulations! You officially found a false prophet that God warned us about in the last days! If you believe that God is Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient, then why dont we just let God decide who will be saved or not! Than claiming that only ur people will be saved! How about the people who lived in the olden days who died not hearing about the word of God? Will they not be judged also? God looks inside every mans heart not by what denomination he is/was with. Religion is only there to guide us not to save us. So before joining any religion, try to attend as many as you can, study them and most importantly, pray with all your heart which religion its gonna be. But be warned of those religions claiming that they are the only one who will be saved…thats all I can say

  4. raymond Reply

    Im proud be a catholic.

  5. Dante Reply

    Grabe ung comment sa ibabaw parang Diyos maka puna

    anyway, eto ang pinaka perfect pangontra sa INC at ang Katolika lang ang una at huling itinayong simbahan ni Kristo

    BE PROUD TO BE CATHOLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. missv Reply

      Well said 🙂 #proud

  6. Pearl Reply

    Wala naman sa religion, nasa gawa ng tao yan.

    1. Paul Gerard Antonio Saret Reply

      Good works alone will not bring us to salvation. We have to accept Jesus as our Lord and saviour.

    2. nelson pastor ajos Reply

      Pearl paki basa ang 1 Tim 3:15. The church referred was the Catholic church. 312 AD official naging Roman Catholic Church, via Emperor Constantine, a catholic convert. ang Bible na na
      collate ng Catholic church thru Fr. Jerome ay 397 AD later via the Nicean Council, kasi ang Lutheran ay 1527 palang, ang INC-1914, ang JW ay 1897. Getz mo ang katotohanan?

    3. Jojo Reply

      The Catholic Church has never taught such a doctrine and, in fact, has constantly condemned the notion that men can earn or merit salvation. Catholic soteriology (salvation theology) is rooted in apostolic Tradition and Scripture and says that it is only by God’s grace–completely unmerited by works–that one is saved.

      The Church teaches that it’s God’s grace from beginning to end which justifies, sanctifies, and saves us. As Paul explains in Philippians 2:13, “God is the one, who, for his good purpose, works in you both to desire and to work.”

      The Council of Trent harmonizes the necessity of grace and works: “If anyone says that man can be justified before God by his own works, whether done by his own natural powers or by the teaching of the Law, without divine grace through Jesus Christ, let him be anathema” (Session 6; can. 1).

      The Council fathers continued by saying, “If anyone says that the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification and that it is not in any way necessary that he be prepared and disposed by the action of his own will, let him be anathema” (Session 6: can. 9).

      By the way, “let him be anathema” means “let him be excommunicated,” not “let him be cursed to hell.” The phrase was used in conciliar documents in a technical, theological sense, not in the same sense as the word “anathema” is found in Scripture. Don’t let “Bible Christians” throw you for a loop on this one.

      So, far from teaching a doctrine of “works righteousness” (that would be Pelagianism, which was condemned at the Council of Carthage in A.D. 418), the Catholic Church teaches the true, biblical doctrine of justification.

      hope this helps you Pearl

  7. slamat sa Dyos Katoliko ako. Reply

    Ikaw magisip isip illuminati. Bago ka magcomment alamin mo muna doktrinang tinuturo ng Catholic. Ang Catholic teaching khit ung mga taong sinabi mong pinanganak noong pa basta nagmamahal sa kapwa umiibig sa dyos e maliligtas. Yan ang turo saming mga katoliko. Anyway name mo plang dito hlatang wla ka ng msasabing matino.

    1. Illuminati Reply

      Ano’ng alam mo bilang katoliko? Ang mag-rosaryo at mag nobena sa loob ng simbahan habang pinagdiriwang ang banal na misa? Buksan mo ang ang makitid mong kukote, hindi mo nakukuha ang punto ko. Mass is the highest form of prayer yet may mga tao pa ring nagrorosaryo habang pinagdiriwang ang misa, yun ay dahil nagkulang ang katoliko sa pangaral, kahit man lang basic teachings ng simbahan kulang sa kaalaman. Msg enumeate ka nga ng mga doktrinang tinuturo sa iyo (allowed mag-google cge). LOL

      1. Dante Reply

        Kung parehas tayong Katoliko e bakit kayo nag aaway mga bro?

        gawain nila yun eh “WALANG BASAGAN NG TRIP”

      2. abubut Reply

        Illuminati? why need to say bad things against other religions just to let other people be converted and follow your belief? and why do you claim na iglesia ni cristo lang ang maililigtas! In our catholic faith we are being led by our leaders although sometimes nagkakamali din sila, natural lang yon tao din sila e… lahat maililigtas hindi lang ang mga katoliko yan ang turo nila huwag kayo selfish d lang kayo ang anak ng Diyos!

      3. Paul Gerard Antonio Saret Reply

        I have never heard of anyone who prays the rosary during holy mass. Maybe they are just holding a rosary.

      4. peter Reply

        Ang nag aakalang siya ay nakatayo ay mag ingat baka siya ay mabuwal.

      5. Jojo Reply

        The best answer for that is like this:

        Holy Mass is the highest form of prayer and worship to God. One can pray the rosary if it doesn’t hinder his participation in the Holy Mass. The Catholic Church has never lacked teachings to her faithful people. it is just there are still people who do not understand the real Catholic Teachings, like you …Have you ever studied the Catholic Doctrine? Try to study the origin and dogma of the Catholic Church entirely and then denounce our faith if you see it against the Scripture.

      6. francisco gumera Reply

        Yon din talaga ang napupuna ko sa mga ibang sekta na lage nilang sinirian ang mga katoliko eh samanta ang mga katoliko ay wala naman sinasabi na laban sa kanila.Let’s be fair and square brother and sister we just embrace our own faith and belief.John 6:35 pls.Read.God bless everyone!

      7. ramsky Reply

        May katangahan karin talaga illuminatti noh… kasi lahat ng mga coment mo puro hindi pinagisipan… halatang maymasabi kalang eh… try mo pasok sa simbahan pag oras ng my misa… baka pumasok ka sa simbahan eh wlang misa kaya natural ang makikita mo dun ay mga taong nagdarasal… at nagrorosaryo…. ikaw ang kulang ng kaalaman… kaw ky langan mag google… eh kaso mukhang wlang talab sa iyo yun kasi… kc kung anu ang alam mo yun lang pinaniniwalaan mo… kya useless lang sayo mag google… sayang lang…

      8. DKBM Reply

        Tungkulin ng bawat Katoliko na aralin ang Katolisismo. Hindi kasalanan ng Simbahan kung hindi nag-aaral ng Katolisismo ang mga Katoliko. Ako, bilang isang Katoliko, ay hindi umasa na may magtuturo sa akin ng Katolisismo. Ako mismo ang nagsaliksik. Hindi ako naghintay ng kahit na sinong magtuturo sa akin dahil gusto kong matuto. Napakaraming website ang nagtuturo ng Katolisismo. Mga gawa ng mga Catholic theologians.

      9. vince Reply

        wow…

        cliaming kayo ahh….

        kung yang lang naman ang tinutoro…

        wag na kayong mag basa Sa “New Testaments INC.. Old Testament nalang ang Libro nyo INC…”

        inyong mga preacher dini kusog manaway sa Catholic Church… same sa Jehovah’s Witnesses( witnesses intaah manaway mahn), Mormons(LDS), Baptist.. ug daghan pang hinawayon.

        ang APOCRYPHA na BOOKS kay ge-explain nang ST. JEROME DURING HIS TIME… 300 A.D. while
        PROTESTANISM 1521… pake-explain….

    2. dead sea Reply

      Tama ka. Masasabi ko lang na huwag kang magbago ng paniniwala dahil ang naniniwala lang sa Divine Trinity ang siyang tinatanggap ng Poong Maykapal sa kanyang kaharian. Kahit pa pstor o ministro sila ay doon din sa kadiliman ang bagsak nila dahil panlilinlang ang ginagawa at itinuturo nila sa mga tao. Masabi ko ito dahil namatay na ako at muling nabuhay at doon ko nalaman nkung ano ang kabilang buhay na walang hanggan. Sa kaharian ng Diyos, ang mga pari ay kanyang alagad at sila ang nagmimisa. nakapaligid naman ang mga anghel at nakaupo sa trono ang Panginoong Hesukristo. Lahat ng paligid ay napapalibutan ng ginto. Mahirap sundan ang daan papunta sa kaharian ng Diyos. Dadaan ka sa maraming hirap kung ikaw ay may malaking kasalanan noong buhay ka pa. Marami kang madadaanang mga kaluluwa na naghihirap,nananaghoy at nag iiyakan sa hirap na kanilang dinadanas na hindi alam kung saan ang daan papuntang glorya. alang tumutulong sa kanila. kanya kanyang lakad ito.

      1. darry Reply

        Tanong ko lang po…nung nakapunta kau dun may kabayo ba si Jesus?…may mga matatanda rin ba dun like mga lola ntn ganun…

        Hnd po sa di ako naniniwalang nakapunta n kau dun…gusto ko lang po malaman…di kompo kau ijjudge promise…katoliko din ako at solido po,,,God Bless,,,pwede sa emailmko nlng u g sagot…darrygee07@yahoo.com

        THANKS.

  8. Pmv Reply

    In the end, our Blessed Mother Mary will correct everything through the grace given to Her by the Holy Trinity.. Including islam.. Patience brothers and sisters in this time of deception of other false religions. Let’s pray for them and the Pope

  9. Febe Reply

    I’m one of the living proof on how INC do their teachings. I went through their “Doktrina” – process in which INC teachings was given to any interested individual of becoming an INC member. Napansin ko lang pero never ko pinuna ung ministro (for respect) – na when he’s reading the bible and put into words kung ano ang beliefs ng isang INC – it was done word for word. Meaning kung ano ang basa, ‘yon ang kahulugan. In my opinion, bible was written with holiness. Too deep to fathom and oftentimes, we’re asking blessings and guidance para lubusang maunawaan ang turo nito. A simple word requires deep understanding at hindi ‘yong definition lang based sa mismong salita. At sa hanggang matapos ko ang “doktrina” palaging natitira at nakukumpara ang katoliko. Masakit for me kasi I was born as a Catholic. At sa sarilining pananaw ko, you can teach the words of God without using other religions. ‘Yong parang sila mali at ikaw tama. It was so inappropriate. Nevertheless, nayari ko lahat ng proseso but I was never baptized. I gave up and was never married to my INC fiancee. I was never in doubt at first to become an INC because I loved the person that I’ll be with. But I just can’t be in a religion with these kind of beliefs. In the end, it’s not with the religion but on how you live your life in accordance to God. Kahit INC or Catholic ka, we just need to have “respect” for each other. Salamat po.

    1. Darling of the Crowd....?. Reply

      If you are living accordingly sa mga good teachings ng iyong pananampalataya.we dont need to argue kung sino ang tunay o huwad na relihiyon. Ang importante mga catholics and INC sa mundo nating ginagalawan ,d2 man o sang sulok man ng mundo, we learned to co exist the right way.. If a catholic can encourage other religion to convert as catholic,wala akong nakikitang problema don at di rin naman siguro problemang tingnan if INC are recruiting their flocks to grow more cause catholics cannot deny the fact that they have establish great foundations na rin..Me i dont worry with INC if they can recruit more individuals, i never worry as catholic since in my mind alam ko pa rin na we are still in a much larger numbers..The reason maybe INC keep on growing its because through the years they have bèen patient in simply in accepting those individuals na maka ka meet at simply makaka comply sa kanila and Catholics should accept the fact that we are not doing what they do in terms of encouraging and recruting new recruits.simply we catholics just simply multiply by the virtue of our large numbers,na parang mas malamang at malaking porsiyento na the family and clan would stick as catholics once born for sure catholicism na ang relihiyong..Sà totoo lang mga catholics di man natin i acknowledge ang katotohanan d2 sa pinas ang mga grupo ng INC is aforce to reckon with lalo na sa politika….he,he…ok mga katoto gud night and by your heads and pray………LOL

      1. abubut Reply

        catholic church donnot argue with such things like this humble church nga diba… ang INC lang naman mahilig manira e pero catholic church kahit ganon d parin sila pumapatol

      2. BoBong Illuminati Reply

        Nope, kung sino ang tumanggap sa ganitong kaparaanan ay hindi tunay na Katoliko.

    2. Ar. Pat Reply

      …but how will you respect those people who spit on the face of your mother? I mean, the Mother church. They “deserve a punch on their nose.”

  10. jay-r ynot Reply

    He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    1 John 2:4

    whether you are a catholic or inc the bible clearly says that you are a hypocrite claiming you are a true church but not keeping his commandments!

  11. jomelyn gregorio Reply

    Kung HND ka tinwag ng Ama para mag INC ,wala ka tlagang maintindihan,kahit anong basa mo,
    Kc pinag kakaloob Lang ung pang unawa sa mga pinili nya ! Manaliksik kau ,kaya kmi nag aakay ,

    1. ace Reply

      yun ang sabi ni ministro nyo eh

    2. allan bo Reply

      Manaliksik san sa gnwa nyong history,?