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Does Jesus Want Us to Support Same-Sex “Marriage"?

Attempting to win Christians over to their side, same-sex “marriage" proponents often assert that Jesus would approve of their agenda. They claim that Jesus never said anything at all about homosexuality. Not once do the gospels record him condemning homosexual acts as being sinful. Therefore, the activists claim, Jesus would approve of same-sex “marriage" and Christians should be supportive.

Although it is true that the gospels do not record Jesus directly condemning homosexual acts, to conclude on this basis that he in any way approved of them is faulty reasoning. It commits a logical fallacy known as argumentum a silentio (Latin for “argument from silence"). “Jesus is not on record against it so he must be for it." Such an argument bases its conclusion on a supposed lack of evidence to the contrary rather than on the existence of any evidence one way or the other. In reality, lack of evidence does not prove anything.

The fact that the gospels do not contain a record of Jesus doing something does not mean that he did not do it. It could be that the gospel writers simply did not record it. The gospels do not contain an exhaustive record of Jesus’ teaching. John tells us as much at the end of his gospel (John 21:25):

But there are also many other things which Jesus did; were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church (514) addresses this as well:

Many things about Jesus of interest to human curiosity do not figure in the Gospels. Almost nothing is said about his hidden life at Nazareth, and even a great part of his public life is not recounted.

So, it could be that Jesus did directly condemn homosexual acts but his condemnations were not recorded in the gospels. In fact, it is reasonable to assert that he did do so because homosexual acts were condemned in the Old Testament before Jesus as well as in the New Testament after him.

In the New Testament, it is primarily in Paul’s letters that homosexual acts are directly condemned. In his letter to the Galatians, Paul reminds us where he got his teaching (Gal 1:11-12):

For I would have you know, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not man's gospel. For I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ.

Paul was the last apostle to be sent by Jesus (cf. 1 Cor 15:8) and we should expect that he received the same assurances that Jesus provided to the other apostles. Jesus promised his apostles that the Holy Spirit would (among other things) “bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you" (John 14:26).

Paul certainly shared in this assurance. That being the case, his teaching on homosexuality may very well be what he remembered Jesus saying to him in a revelation.

Additionally, when Jesus sent out representatives he told them, “He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me” (Luke 10:16). Thus, since Paul was sent by Jesus, when we “hear" him in his letters, we also hear Jesus.

There really is no doubt that Jesus condemned homosexual acts as sinful so do not be fooled by the faulty reasoning of activists.

 

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  1. Paulo De Freitas Reply

    With all due respect and as a catholic gay men……..
    Who on this earth can say if Jesus wants us to support same sex marriages or not?. Did Jesus wanted the Vatican to keep quiet about priests molesting children?. Did Jesus wanted the Popes in the olden days have bastard children like they did?.
    Did Jesus wanted the Nuns in some catholic schools to ill treat children the way they did?.
    Is there any gay person demanding that gay marriages be accepted and recognized by the Catholic Church ?.
    Did Jesus wanted slavery to exist ?.
    I love Jesus and he loves me, and if I want to get married to another Man, whom I am going to be faithful to and honor him, why should I get approval from the Catholic Church ?.
    Is there not so manny wars going on at this precise moment that we should be directing our prayers and energies to ?.
    Listen Catholics lets not throw stones on glass roofs….even if you are without sin, love your neighbor as you love yourself, be like Jesus was and not what you think Jesus would be like……..

    Throw as manny stones as you want at me as a gay man, I will still walk into a Catholic Church , kneel and pray to Jesus and all the goodness that the Catholic Church stands for…. If you feel offended by my presence please don’t come to our Father house at the same time as me……but believe me the day we meet our Father in Heaven, there will be space for all of us, gay ,straigth, black, white, man , woman, virgins, prostitutes, married, single……

    With or without “your” support…..Jesus will still love me.

    Don’t give yourselves more importance than you deserve, kneel and pray and let Jesus be the loving judge of what is right and wrong.

    God bless you all.

    1. PonyPam Reply

      Paulo, with all due respect as a Catholic not-gay mom — You ask "Who on earth can say if Jesus wants us to support same sex marriage or not?" And that is precisely the question to be asking. Who on earth can say what if anything Jesus wants us to support?

      You have the answer in the Bible itself, wherein Jesus establishes one Church, and instructs that Church that whatever it binds on earth shall be bound in heaven, whatever it looses on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

      You are absolutely right in that many things have been done by Catholics in the past and the present that Jesus clearly did not condone. Even if a pope does something that is sinful, it does not mean that the Church condones it.

      Please, do continue to walk into the Catholic Church, kneel down, and pray. I am not at all offended by your presence, and would stand with you against anyone who is offended by your presence. (And because I'm a mom type, I'd probably also shake my finger at them and scold them. ;))

      But, Paulo, please do not take offense when I or any other Catholic does nothing more than agree with the Bride of Christ when she says, with Christ's authority, that people of the same sex simply cannot marry.

      1. Maria Elena Layumas Reply

        Rightly said! We accept gay men who are good and practicing Catholics but do not tolerate gay men having homosexual activities. Learn from Sodom and Gomorrah. "Then all the men of the city surrounded Lot's house and said, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." (Genesis 19:5, NIV) By ancient custom, the visitors were under Lot's protection. Lot was so infected by the wickedness of Sodom that he offered the homosexuals his two virgin daughters instead. Furious, the mob rushed up to break down the door.

        The angels struck the rioters blind! Leading Lot, his wife, and two daughters by the hand, the angels hurried them out of the city. The girls' fiancés would not listen and stayed behind.

        Lot and his family fled to a tiny village called Zoar. The Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah, destroying the buildings, the people, and all the vegetation in the plain.

        1. Paulo Reply

          Maria Elena
          I respect your views and you ideas……
          But I think that Jesus Christ our Savior DID in fact " TOLERATE, much more than you can imagine, but, obviously,you are a far superior person than Jesus Christ, that as a good Christian does not TOLERATE this that and the other.

          You do not TOLERATE!!!!!!

          God bless you

          1. Jason

            Paulo, also as far as TOLERATING goes, pwrhaps you should examine these quotes from the venerable archbishop Fulton J. Sheen:

            America, it is said, is suffering from intolerance — it is not. It is suffering from tolerance. Tolerance of right and wrong, truth and error, virtue and evil, Christ and chaos. Our country is not nearly so overrun with the bigoted as it is overrun with the broadminded.
            “A Plea For Intolerance” (1931).

            Tolerance is an attitude of reasoned patience toward evil … a forbearance that restrains us from showing anger or inflicting punishment. Tolerance applies only to persons … never to truth.
            “A Plea For Intolerance” (1931).

          2. Lydia-Bimboy Martillo

            May I remind you of Leviticus 20:13 which says -If a man has a sexual relation with another man, they have done a disgusting thing and both shall be put to death . They are responsible for their own death. I am not condemning anybody but the law of nature is, man is made for a woman and vice versa. Have seen a male cat having the act with another male cat? It is as simple as that. Let us not make excuses just to make right what is wrong.

          3. Kirk Lindsay

            Christ is GOD in the flesh. God said in the old testament that homosexuality was wrong. Then Christ came and fulfilled the law. But when Christ asked about marriage he replied it was between a man and a woman! Christ/GOD understands all relationships from the beginning of time. When Christ/Holy Spirit told Paul what to write in the New Testament about homosexuality in the church and who would inherit the kingdom of GOD he repeated his thoughts again. Christ does not stand for homosexual marriage or relationships (LGBT lovers). God does love people but does not love their wrong choices.

          4. sezzerwend

            Most of the thing we do is tied closely to a sin, even judging someone in your mind, even if it is for a man to lust for a woman he is not married to. Lusting the same gender isn’t any different just because he did not mention it. We need to accept that we are all sinners, pray for the forgiveness of our sins, and let him know that we will have faith in him until the end as he has given us the faith in his promise. Pray for everyone’s suffering.

        2. gail Didich Reply

          Marie Elena the sin at Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with homosexuality. It was about rape and the inhospitable ways of the men who wanted to do do harm to the visitors at Lot’s house.So Go destroyed the city of Sodom.

          1. Kirk Lindsay

            Wrong GOD destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because they mistreated the widows and orphans. They were mistreating them because of their sin choices. They were obsessed with doing wrong, its says in the Bible that they had abominable practices . The same word which is used for Homosexuality.

          2. padraig

            It had to do with homosexuality.

        3. Patryk Reply

          I am also a practicing Catholic, No I am not gay, nor am I an advocate of Same Sex Marriage, but why do we, as Catholics and many Christians, do as well, revert to quoting the Old Testament when it comes to homosexuality? It also says in the Old Testament that men should not shave or cut their hair. Unlike the Pork Eating Issue, the shaving and hair cutting is not specifically addressed in the New Testament, that I am aware of. Do we assume like homosexuality, as stated in the article, that it is assumed to still be law as it was God’s Law and would be the same even though not directly addressed? As well, in the New Testament, In Timothy, women shall not have any role of authority in the church, yet we see it as a regular occuramce on committees, , Nuns, etc, etc. I am not advocating women sitting quietly, and not having nuns, but, rather, I am just pointing out and wondering why we tend to pick and choose what we follow or how we interpret scripture and whether we discard things that have been reverted in The New Testament over the Old Testament but go back to the Old, to satisfy an argument, one way or another.

      2. Paulo Reply

        You are absolutely right ,
        I should not take offence( and I do not) by anybody views and how they practice their religion.
        And I did mean to defende any gay positions or demand any rights for the gay community, honestly speaking, I sometimes thinks that some gay people take it a bit too far in the way they express their sexuality, but, who am I to judge.
        I just feel that the way the question is being put forward will open a can of worms and lots of people will find an window to express they hatred for gay people and gay relationships.
        I love my religion and I would not ever deny Jesus and my religion, but sometimes the Catholic Church saddens me with the views they take. I will admit that to another catholic…..not to any other religion, there to many out there trying to destroy our church.
        Gos bless

        1. rosemariemorgan Reply

          Paulo the church will never condone hatred of people. whatever their sins, judge not lest ye be judged. but as a brother or a sister, someone who loves you will always tell you if they see you putting yourself in danger. not to punish, and certainly not out of hatred but out of love.

          If I hated a person and saw them wandering blindly beside a precipice I might let them fall. If I love them I try to guide them away. As a Catholic I have a duty to correct my brother, not with anger or hate but with love and compassion. If he continues in his erroneous ways I would ask my fellows to come with me and again seek to educate. If they continue with the behaviour my duty has been fulfilled and the question is between him and God. We seem to have arrived at a situation in the world where telling someone that what they are doing is not good for them implies hatred rather than love. that informing them that what they are doing is against the Church’s teachings and risks their very soul is to insult them. A mother who sees a child getting great joy from running close to a busy street will not stand by, and say it is ok, change her understanding of what is good or bad for that child based on what the child wants to do simply because they child feels it’s ‘good’ and can see nothing wrong with their behaviour and neither should the church. We seem to have arrived at a situation in the world where telling someone that what they are doing is not good for them implies hatred rather than love. How pleased must the devil be to have caused us to believe such a thing.

          This site seeks to answer questions based on church teaching. It is not here to soft soap our feelings. We may not always like or agree with church teachings, but as a Catholic I Must submit to their authority given to her by God. As someone has already said what the church binds on earth is bound in heaven. This means that the Church has a very great responsibility, for the salvation of souls to correctly interpret Gods will through the Word of God, and those He sent to Go forth and spread the Good News. those He sent the Holy Spirit to help. The Church cannot and will not seek to change it’s teachings lightly and should not be encouraged to do so. The Church is first and foremost a servant of God not man she cannot change her teaching because of cultural changes. It is Gods will we seek always to serve not our own.

          1. Michael R. Palma

            Well said. It is the church duty to inform and it is up to man to follow or insist in his ways, hence God granted man freewill. If Mr. Paulo insist in his ways it’s his personal opinion, decision and we respect that. The faults of the early and present clergy is there personal fault and not the church. There fault is not an excuse for the fulfillment of sound church doctrines. Let us pray for God’s wisdom. Peace be with you all. 🙂

      3. Marg Reply

        PamMarg I totally agree, Mary our Mother Pray for us, Jesus have Mercy on us Amen.

    2. Mila Reply

      True love and compassion will seek the salvation of the neighbor.
      I am a sinner and I want people to tell me when I am sinning. I want to be reminded that I am a sinner.
      To be homosexual is not a sin, but to act on it is a sin. That is not me saying it, that is Christ saying it.

      To be saved we must receive the gift of grace. Can we loose that gift? Yes. By sinning. Without grace we have no eternal life. We can have faith, but we must be faithful and we must receive, preserve, and grow in sanctifying grace. Theresa of Avila right as she was dying yells out "it's all about grace"….

      Nobody treats sinners bad. I don't know any Catholics who would treat you bad because you are homosexual. You are generalizing.
      It gets offensive when the homosexual agenda, not you, tries to impose things on us. That is what Catholics don't want. Why? Because we want our children to be saved and not fall into mortal sin. And that goes to all sinners and all those who want to turn what is clear in God's law into something relative up for grabs.

      You continue to go to Church. The Church is for sinners. Don't act victim either because we all have our crosses.

      And to answer your question, is there any gay person demanding that gay marriages be accepted and recognized by the Catholic Church? Yes, there are countless efforts and persecutions the Church is facing now. Some Churches, i.e. in Hawaii, are being forced to provide the Church for same sex unions. In many other countries, i.e. my home country, the Bishop was forced to recognize two lesbians as a couple.
      You might not see it, but it is happening and coming.

      Nobody told you not to go to Church.
      Nobody is throwing stones at you.
      Nobody is thinking you are less than they are.

      That is your imagination and in part that is because there is a nefarious agenda, propagated by extremist anti-Christian groups and the gay lobby that has the least interest in gays, telling you the Church is your enemy when it is the only thing that is seeking your eternal salvation.

      What people are saying is don't force homosexuality on the Church and don't force me to believe the act of homosexuality is right when it is clearly stated over and over it is not. Same as theft, lying, adultery, murder, etc etc…

      I am a sinner and probably worse than you and most, but I don't impose and force people to accept my sin.

      Bless you, continue to go to church and don't let this temporal short life prevent you from eternal glory. That is the only thing that matters.

      1. Paulo Reply

        Dear Mila

        I sincerely aphologise for my ignorance regarding the situation in Hawaii etc…
        And I would never wish to impose homosexual behaviour on you or anyone else for that matter. I don't strive to be accepted, I accept myself unconditionally and will only answer to God for my sins.
        As for acting as a victim …far from it. I am a very blessed homosexual man, loved by my family, my friends, my fellow parishioners and the priest of my parish.
        The only reason for my comment was to ask people why should we try to find out WHAT would Jesus want us to support or not ?.
        The bible is clear enough and we should accept what it says regarding homosexuality, otherwise let's start question everything that the bible and the church stipulates. If we going to open one can of worms we might as well open all of them, and then the other religions can stand back and laugh at us, because we will be giving them more reason to destroy the Catholic Church.
        And don't beat yourself about your sins, God is a God of mercy and he loves you no matter what, His love is unconditional .
        God bless you.

    3. Adolf Hitler Reply

      I Dont Want To Support Same Sex Marriage Because The Gays Let There Feelings Overcome Their Mind And Also They Have Still Time To Change If They Wanted It

    4. jbee Reply

      I believe Jesus said, “you are either for me or against me”. Don’t judge the church for the bad actions of some of its members. The church does not stop you to do as what you want. You are judged by God alone based on how you obeyed his words. If you don’t want to follow his words it’s up to you. The church is there as a guide to its members. I’m glad the church is strong with the grace of God which all of us sinners try to defy.

    5. Susan Gozo Reply

      Paulo, there is a wonderful book out now, that you must read. It comes in 3 short-readable volumes. It is the Prophesy for the end-times (Daniel and Revelations explained).
      You can find it at this website: http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com

      But I suggest you get the books, the website may or may not have placed that particular reference upon the website. Jesus does address gay issues, in a very, very believable way.
      Jesus reveals private revelation to his end-time prophet. If you come across priests who say, that his doing that isn’t scriptural, then repeat this scriptural reference…1Thessalonians 5:20.
      The logic used in the argument above also applies to “private revelations” in the last days.
      Get the books “The Book of Truth”, vol.1, 2, 3, Jesus is dictating his explanation of the prophetic books and explaining his Holy Word, which is written in detailed explanation leaving no questions in the minds of believers. Jesus warns priests and laity of the gravity of dismissing prophesy or prophetic utterances that truly come from him. It is a seriously offensive sin to Jesus and is extremely punished! As for the homosexuality. So that there won’t be any misconceptions, it is better to read it for one’s self. You have the website, order the books!
      You’ll really want to know the real teachings of Jesus and gay marriage. But I will give you a hint: “Be fruitful and multiply”.

      1. padraig Reply

        Susan that is a false website .maria divine mercy is false.

    6. lovemyboys Reply

      The fact that members of the Church have sinned or have possibly sinned is not a reason for another member of the Church to continue sinning or to have a "right" to sin. If ALL the members of the Church sin, and the Bible tells us this is so, the TEACHINGS of the Church are without error. And the Church is both compassionate and firm in their approach to homosexuality. The person is to be loved, cherished, prayed for, supported, encouraged and treated as what they are: a much beloved sister/brother in Christ. The act is clearly labeled as grievous sin. And so you have a person you love who has committed or is committing grievous sin. This is not new. We ALL sin, most of us grievously and yet we still manage to love each other and bring Christ to each other.

    7. Juana Reply

      Paulo De Freitas as a life long Catholic I 110% agree withave you.

    8. reevieklly Reply

      Paulo
      I LOVE your post. It seems to me that you get it. You get the message Christ is sending. All we need is love. He loved so many people that we today would turn away. I recently was slapped right in the face with this issue. One of my very best friends was marrying her girlfriend and I was asked to be the maid of honor. I really struggled with it. But, through a whole lot of prayer and talking to God I decided to love her regardless. She is my best friend who has never judged me so who am I to judge her. She has had so many turn their back on her because of her choices, and that’s just not right. I am choosing to love her and her mate just as Christ does.
      There are children involved. And at a Protestant church, one of the boys was told his mother was going to hell because of her life choice to be with a woman. That is just wrong. I find solace in the Catholic Church and I think they could too.
      Thank you for your post. You wrote it with love and one can clearly read that. The only one that truly matters is our Lord. Please continue to go to mass and worship. If we all open our hearts and focus on trying to love as Christ does, man, that’ll change your whole world for the good. It’s really peaceful to finally read something written from the inside instead of all the hate we see and read everywhere.
      God bless you!!! 🙂

    9. Jason Reply

      Paulo, apparently you are not Catholic or you would know that the 6th precept of the Church is to obey the laws of the Church regarding marriage. Since you don’t care if the Church approves of your marriage, you must not be Catholic.

      Also, paragraph 2359 of the Catechism states, “Homosexual persons are called to chastity”. Paragraph 2357 states, “Homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered. They are contrary to the Natural Law. They close off the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved”.

      I know several Catholics who struggle with same-sex attraction and they are living chaste lives because they understand that God’s will is greater than their own.

    10. Emma Reply

      Must you be a Catholic? why are you bothered about the position of the Catholic church? That is how she wants to operate

    11. Timothy J. Corbitt Reply

      Here is the commentary of Jesus concerning divorce, and what constitutes a marriage.

      19:1. And it came to pass when Jesus had ended these words, he departed from Galilee and came into the coasts of Judea, beyond Jordan.

      19:2. And great multitudes followed him: and he healed them there.

      19:3. And there came to him the Pharisees tempting him, saying: Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?

      19:4. Who answering, said to them: Have ye not read, that he who made man from the beginning, made them male and female? And he said:

      19:5. For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they two shall be in one flesh.

      19:6. Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.

      19:7. They say to him: Why then did Moses command to give a bill of divorce, and to put away?

      19:8. He saith to them: Because Moses by reason of the hardness of your heart permitted you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

      19:9. And I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery.

      19:10. His disciples say unto him: If the case of a man with his wife be so, it is not expedient to marry.

      19:11. Who said to them: All men take not this word, but they to whom it is given.

    12. P Edward Murray Reply

      As a practicing Catholic I ask Paulo why is it that Jesus must have thought same sex marriage was ok? He already taught that marriage was between one man and one woman. That is the way of nature and the way God created all of us including you. If you had two Moms or two Dads, we would not be having this discussion since you would not have been created. This is not just my idea but it is fact.

      So why are you here asking?

      As a practicing Catholic I challenge you to go to Confession, begin receiving Communion and pray every day!

      Good prayers like The Holy Rosary, Chaplet of Divine Mercy, Rosary of The Holy Wounds are all very powerful.
      Also try St Gertrude The Great’s Prayer for The Holy Souls in Purgatory, said once, releases a large number, like 1,000 from Purgatory to Heaven…only for saying once… say it many times a day to help many, many souls!

      Through Confession, Communion and prayer you can achieve the goal of living without sex..which is what Christ and his Church want for you as a Gay person, just as it is for the rest of us who are not gay.

      And some folks can apparently , with God’s help, walk away from the gay lifestyle!

      I wish you peace and I will pray for you!

    13. Marzella Philip Reply

      Paulo De Freitas… really i believe the old testament says something about this Lev. 18:22

      ‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.” (NASB)
      “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.” (ESV, NKJV)… also Jesus was here to promote God and the teachings of God 1 Timothy 6:3 If any man teacheth a different doctrine, and consenteth not to sound words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

    14. LM Reply

      No, Jesus would not want ANY of the sins you itemized to occur. All those wrongs don’t make ANY of them right and it is more faulty reasoning to try to promote the rightness of sin by holding up other sins as comparisons.

    15. Travelle W Reply

      You are loved! This is the only topic where people fail to understand scripture in it’s context and fail to use logic and reason. Clear thinking is an innate ability, as we are created in God’s image.

      Those who rant their views of dislike, sin and hatred have failed to allow Christ to create in them a new heart. Being same gender loving is very natural. If this was a concept in Paul’s time, he would have referenced the important difference of being same gender loving compared to the male prostitution, pagan idol worship and sexual orgies to fertility God’s common in the Greek and Roman world he saw. These clobber verses/passages in Leviticus, etc are relevant to Pagan worship. Note, these ‘abominations’ better translated ‘uncustomary’ or ‘not common’. A natural same gender loving relationship we understand today, has nothing to do with the scriptural context we fail to study. Paul also reminds us if we follow all of the 613 commands, the follow them ALL. so READ all of them. Jewish thought encourages logic in reading the Torah, as Yeshua thought, lived, breathed, taught and died a Jew.

      Please quit abusing scripture to justify your hatred and ‘sin’ talk. Please quit using the word ‘homosexual’ as this was not a concept of the time and there is no Greek or Hebrew word for it, as it is only a word roughly 100 years old.Christ commands us to LOVE……Educate yourselves and get with it!

      LGBT support and love from me!! Never validate yourself! you are loved and you are worthy! God LOVES you! SHALOM

      1. Silvano Reply

        My dear Travelle, that you call the “same gendr loving” to be very natual makes me ask you, where and how did you get that notion? It is like saying that killing people that you don’t like is very natural in deed. Don’t make me laugh, because it is not natural at all. Please go back to your books (not the Bible I must add) and study this subject well, because with your assertion you did not pass the test at all. Giving you an “f” in Natural Science, Human Ethics, Social Studies, History….and when and if we come to Religion, God have Mercy on you.

  2. lmc Reply

    its evident in Bible that God the Father thought it wrong and s wrong he destroyed a town so i dont think Jesus had to say it .i thought it was already clear.

  3. S McCollim Reply

    In response to my question on this subject, my parish priest stated that homosexuality itself is not a sin. However, engaging in homosexual activity is considered a sin in the same way pre-marital sex is a sin.

  4. thomas a guaraldi Reply

    and for a priest to say that homosexuality is not a sin but the act is-is as much a lie as saying it is ok to have a slave,but slavery is wrong! NO LOGIC!-the biggest superstition and we are brainwashed into believing,the bible is the word of GOD and the bible is infallible! These are superstitions never proven!,just handed down because someone claims them as facts! The same for the Pope being infallible! these are all HUMANS! they had flaws! We as Catholics fail to remember the ONE HUMAN, Truly Proclaimed as Perfect and without Sin! Holy Mother Mary!- and NOT once does she ever say the Apostles,their writings are infallible! The early church was Filled with Superstition and Power hungry HUMANS,creating and doing what They felt was correct! and setting the foundation and direction of the church of today the way they wanted it!-to often CHRIST has been blamed for the ideas and conduct of humans! and wars,persecutions and mis-education still go on today because of it! JESUS said HIS greatest commandment is LOVE! All humans,no matter if catholic or not should pay more heed to that law then any man made law! and as CHRIST SAID,HE WILL JUDGE THE LIVING AND DEAD! AND HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN,CAST FIRST STONE! No human before,now,or until made by HEAVEN,whether holy or not,whether they 'followed" Christ or not, will ever have the Power and sanctification of Heaven,as out HOLY MOTHER! and since SHE nor CHRIST had anything to say against homosexuals or their right to marry! I will forever support that right for them!

    1. Josie Reply

      Okay Thomas, I'm going to try to correct you where I see wrong teachings, because I don't believe that Catholics such as yourself should be misled. Please don't think I'm one of those uppity people, but you should know the truth. I may not cover every wrong thing, but please feel free to go purchase the Catholic Catechism. First of all, the priest is correct and that logic is so far distanced from the example you provided. The priest's point was, some people are born with homosexual feelings, and should not be hated, but loved as unconditionally as anyone else. The difference is between the actions and the feelings. Peoples' orientations may be homosexual, but the sin is when they physically act on it. Everyone is called to be chaste, and pure till marriage. Homosexuals are not allowed to marry, as their sexual act can not bring forth life, which is an important element to sex. Gods' design for the marital act is between Him, the man and the woman, so that they can come together and bond with the possibility of procreation. That is why birth control is also a sin, even if it isn't an abortifacient, which obviously is very wrong, also. The Bible was put together through prayer and the guidance of God, when choosing the inspired books. Read this (Catholic) article. http://discovercatholic.wordpress.com/11-2/where-… The Pope is not infallible as a human. Even the pope goes to Confession. The Pope is infallible in his decisions for the CHURCH. Quoting directly from wikipedia's Papal Infallibility page: "Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church that states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error[1] "When, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church." Notice not 'the Pope never makes mistakes' or 'the Pope never sins'. Instead, the Pope does not err when defining a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church. http://www.catholic.com/tracts/papal-infallibilit… -this from a Catholic source, again. Yes, Mary has never sinned. But just because she and Jesus have never been recorded to say (as far as I know) anything against homosexuality does not mean they said the action of it was fine. In Romans 1:24-27: 'Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.' People do err and sin. Just because the Church is infallible does NOT mean all her members are. Homosexual ACTIONS are wrong, as defined by the Church, started by Jesus Himself. I am serious; PLEASE do go buy a Catechism and read it.

  5. P-Dub Wade Reply

    Paulo. God bless you, and please continue to pray. We all know the truth for it has been taught.

    1. Paulo Reply

      And God bless you and all of us.

  6. xty Reply

    SAME SEX MARRIAGE IS A SIN B4GOD AND SO IN CAPITAL LETTER NO SAME SEX MARRIAGE SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED BY CATOLIC POPE.SODUM AND GOMORA WAS DISTROYED BCOS OF SUCH.

    1. Paulo Reply

      GOD BLESS YOU IN CAPITAL letter also.

  7. Ijay Reply

    Please can someone remind me why God destroyed sodom and gomorra?

  8. James Reply

    Josie has a very acurate response. As for some others, they fuel the fire of hatred and misunderstanding.
    Sodom and Gammorah were not destroyed for homosexuality. They were destroyed because they violated the law of hospitality or the custom of shalom. The men of the town threatened rape as an insult to the visitors in Lot's home. Remember, Lot was a foreigner and had received foreign visitors, considered messengers of God. Read the story, Genesis 19.
    How do I know this is the correct way to interpret this passage? Because Jesus alludes to this when he sends the disciples out two by two (Luke 10:8-12) To paraphrase, -if you go into a town and they do not accept you, …wipe the dust from your feet… on that day it shall go better for Sodom.
    The question of marriage for most gay people is not that it be conferred as a sacrament, but that it is used by the government to discriminate against them. It is an issue of social justice. Examples- hospitals routinely refuse lifetime partners access to their loved ones citing HIPPA – more than half a lifetime accumulation of assets are taken from gay partners by the IRS (not done in states with gay marrige) – families legally deny lifetime partners attendance to funerals and exclude them from final decisions.
    Thaese are social issues not religious ones. The government should not be in the marriage business nor should it favor one group of Americans over another. After all, isn't this the very thing we are fighting against with regard to the current healthcare mandate? Just as good Catholics do not want to be forced to violate our moral laws, so should we not use the force of government to inforce our sacrament. Otherwise, should we favor sharia law. Where does it end?

    1. Silvano Reply

      James, don’t say that. What you say has been proclaimed by the gays and lesbians to pet themselves on the back and smile while they are sinning. Sodoma and Gomorrah were destroyed because of their homosexsuality, called also sodomy, and that that city has had the name of Sodoma is clear evidence of the why it was destroyed. So, please….. I can tell you even further, that the anger of God riched its limit, when they tried to “f….” the two angels…that is why, not because of a mere disrespect of an ancient customs…. So please….. let us ask God for forgiveness for the further and further pains that we are giving to His beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, in trying to insinuate that this sin is ok….. not in a milion year.

  9. DANNY LAAS Reply

    Revelation 22:14-16 CPDV

    Blessed are those who wash their robes in the blood of the Lamb. So may they have a right to the tree of life; so may they enter through the gates into the City. Outside are dogs, and drug users, and homosexuals, and murderers, and those who serve idols, and all who love and do what is false. “I, Jesus, have sent my Angel, to testify to these things for you among the Churches. I am the Root and the Origin of David, the bright morning Star.”

  10. Edward Imani Reply

    Jesus may not have said anything about homosexuality, but since it was not allowed in the Old Testament it is wrong even today. Jesus said that He did not come to throw away the Law, but simply to enrich it.

  11. DANNY LAAS Reply

    Hebrews 11:6 CPDV

    But without faith, it is impossible to please God. For whoever approaches God must believe that he exists, and that he rewards those who seek him.

  12. joeymarcos Reply

    there is nothing wrong of loving someone… but same sex going into the sacrament of marriage is not appropriate. marriage is I believe a legal and a holy binder for a couple to perform sex in order to have children… to have what we call a family. Father(MAN) mother(WOMAN) = children under 1GOD. I Believe that's why GOD created male and female. Man can love man through respect and friendship… as well as woman to woman too. gay can love and make lesbian or non-lesbian pregnant. and they can be a couple and family. lesbian can be loved and make pregnant by a man and a gay and they can be a couple and a family under 1GOD… I think it is more appropriate I open this idea to you guys just open your mind… GOD BLESS US ALL… PEACE ON EARTH….

  13. Susan Reply

    Catholic Girl,
    2,000 years ago, the Church Heirarchy condemned Jesus Prophecies, they said his teachings were heretical, they branded Jesus’ Words, heresy against the established Israelite thought and philosophy of that age. They said He blasphemed God, the Most High by saying that “He was God’s Anointed Messiah”. Today you know that He told the truth! What you are telling me now, the Pharissees, steeped in their spiritual intellectualism, envy and spiritual pride (all sins and blasphemies against the Holy Spirit, I might add), Condemned the Author of Life’s very own life, out of ignorance and sin, in the same manner that you condemn the Words of The Holy Trinity, in The Book of Truth, and it is not sanctioned, by the Heirarchy of the Roman Catholic Church! Jesus’ ministry lasted all of 3 years! Was not sanctioned by the Temple of the Yehudah, either, but here we are
    2,000 years later….Jesus is imminently coming to this planet again. He came as a suffering servant, the 1st time, but this time as Just Judge. Many prophets proceeded him, St. John the Baptist, Zechariah, Holy Simeon and Anna, and a host of others. Do you think it would be any different, in our age, that He would not use His Holy Prophets to Herald his coming, warn & instruct his people? Think again! We know the Pharisees lied about our Lord’s ministry, death and teachings, because, their pride, ambition and envy and unreadiness to welcome “this” humble servant as their Messiah, did not fit with their image of “Rock Star” insurrectionist! The one who would save all Israel….here we go again. The prophecies from the Book of Truth, have ALL come true, thus far, how is that for a prophetic track – record! Jesus will be here before the Church bats an eyelash, at these
    Words, and grants an imprimatur! But everyone in the World is reading this book, lives are being converted, and the Lord is winning more souls to Himself minute by minute. Use these scripture Verses to help your readers to discern if this is of God’s or not of God’s: Acts 5:34-41.