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How could Lucifer, an archangel, have rebelled against God?

By January 14, 2016 25 Comments

Full Question

Revelation 12:7-9 says Lucifer and his angels fought against God and were cast out of heaven. Since Lucifer was a highly intelligent creature–not to mention the fact that he had an intimate knowledge of God–I can’t comprehend how he (or any angel for that matter) could rebel against God. That seems to be utterly insane. What was the particular sin that Lucifer and the angels allied with him committed?

Answer

You’re right in characterizing Lucifer’s rebellion as an insane act. Don’t forget that, although Lucifer had a superabundance of spiritual gifts, he was also endowed, as we are, with the gift of free will. God left him free to choose good over evil, and, as we know, he chose evil.
Consider Adam and Eve. Before the Fall they possessed immortality, control over their passions and appetites, the complete integrity of their wills, as well as a human intelligence far superior to that which we have now. Yet, like Lucifer, they chose to commit a mortal sin. This means God allowed them to exercise their free will.
As for the particular sin the bad angels committed, many theologians believe that in their pre-fallen state the angels were given a foreknowledge of humans (who would be inferior to them), as well as a foreknowledge that God himself (the second Person of the Trinity) would be incarnated as a man and redeem the universe through his death on the cross.
This revelation angered Lucifer because it meant he and the other angels would have to worship God incarnate. Lucifer and the other angels who fell were so proud of being superior to men that their overweening arrogance wouldn’t allow them to worship Jesus Christ the God-Man. This refusal–this non serviam–stemmed from pride. That, anyway, is the theologian’s theory.

25 Comments

  • terrence tran says:

    What about the Angels who did not decide to follow Lucifer or God? I heard that these Angels stay on earth to the end of the world as the punishment of God.

  • martha Minchala says:

    After reading your response to the article and as I got to the end, I realized whose side are you on. No way would I read your book.

    • paul says:

      I never understand why People like Gannon come on to these forums that they so clearly disagree with just to argue. I dont like Indian food but I dont go in to my local Indian read the menu and tell the staff how much I dislike their cuisine …..Id be wasting my time and theirs. Mr Gannon clearly has deep issues, he needs recognition from the faithful, he longs for attention from us other wise he wouldn’t ” Waste his time” …………..

    • big nasty says:

      You don’t even have to acknowledge this man. We have nothing to prove he either can except the truth or like Satan expect God’s wrath yes Patrick wrath of God.

  • miguel says:

    simple understanding; we are all created by God according to his image and likeness. we have intelligence and that is connected to our free will from the very beginning. the problem of adam and eve is their disobedience to the that simple rule. that disobedience created death to mankind. since lucifer was fallen because of pride and disobedience, he doesnt want all God’s mankind to go back where it came from, that is heaven. i believe that lucifer, the snake, tempted eve to commit sin which represents the apple, as we all know, sex. that sin gave birth to cain. aftrwards, eve wants adam to taste it, and they did it. that thing created the evolution of mankind.

  • Lorenzo Ruiz says:

    Neckbeard detected. So brave.

  • The consubstantiation of God and man was the person of Jesus Christ. Lucifer hated this because since he was so endowed with perfection he reckoned that the consubstantiation of God should have been with him and not with a human person. Lucifer looked down on men and cannot accept the fact that he will have to worship a human person (who is Jesus – the second person of the trinity). And so Lucifer dared to challenge God for not following his wish on this matter. And Gabriel the archangel had to throw Lucifer and his followers out of heaven.
    That’s what I read from a book entitled “The City Of God”. The book was about the life of the Virgin Mary on earth as revealed to a nun. I bought it from a Catholic book shop in Sydney, Australia.

  • paul says:

    I never understand why People like Gannon come on to these forums that they so clearly disagree with just to argue. I dont like Indian food but I dont go in to my local Indian read the menu and tell the staff how much I dislike their cuisine …..Id be wasting my time and theirs. Mr Gannon clearly has deep issues, he needs recognition from the faithfull, he longs for attenton from us other wise he wouldnt ” Waste his time” …………..

    • Peter Micheal says:

      You are really very much insane Patrick & Pray God should have mercy on you for you do not know what you are saying. Don’t allow God’s wrath to fall upon you cause if it does, then I pity you. You are very ignorant & know nothing about God, if only you truely know God then you will understand better that you can not fight Him, or oppose Him. In a nut shell, I Pray That God Almighty should have mercy on you & save your soul.

      • Ayron says:

        You know, God calls us to him by faith not by scientific facts, yes the church accepts evolution but to a extent. I don’t know all the facts, they matter but they don’t really contradict Christ teachings. Contrary to popular belief catholics are not bible thumpers. Our faith is mainly the spoken word the same way Christ taught And we listen, you know I was a atheist myself (I don’t really know what you are Patrick ) and God revealed stuff to me in a way I would never have understood if I kept looking for human science. I watched a documentary on this alien encounter which I know is a hoax but the alien makes a good point lol. He couldn’t explain their technology because it’s like explaining trigonometry to a dog. It’s mind is that far above ours. Or something like that I don’t really remember. But such is God’s ways above ours. I also see that you don’t have a decent grasp of God’s power (truly most of us dont) you say Paul didn’t know jesus, your understanding he never met him but he did meet him. I’m sure you think I’m writing of pauls story when he heard Christ speaking to him. But the truth is he knew Christ better than most of of the people that followed him before he was killed. He had (and eternally does) a deep relationship with christ. We know and have a relationship with christ. It’s hard for me to explain you’d have to experience it yourself. I had doubts. But seeing the spirit move me, showing me how to love, christ saving me from myself and the things I would have otherwise done to people, I have felt and seen the power of prayer. Call me delusional but when something happeneds right in front of your eyes and there are no magicians around.. God’s real
        And he loves us. Dude It seems to me your missing the point by a long shot . Focus on christ jesus message of love for a change and carry out his commandments and you’ll see. And it’s not about money, every parish I’ve ever been to is short of it and there’s more people taking advantage of its generosity than giving. Bro, christ loves you try it out love people the way Christ tells us to and morality alone isn’t enough christ is the answer. I hope God blesses you.

    • Gab says:

      Don’t bash him. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I understand him, I also questioned myself if this is all true. I don’t even believe if heaven and hell exists. What happens to me when I die, is something that no one will know. I understand Patrick and his views. But I don’t agree with him. Not here to correct him. Its his point of view not mine. I chose to believe in God because I want to. I want to see him if he’s real or not. In my life, I’ve felt miracles. And I’m a pure sinner and blasphemer. I even threw a bible once out of anger. And even wrote God ain’t real on the wall. That’s how deep I am. But I was changed. Patrick thanks for your opinion. And I hope if not soon. You’ll find the right answer that will suit your soul.

  • Hunter says:

    Why are you here? You are not going to change any of our minds… So, I’m not seeing what you’re trying to accomplish other than to show us of what a sad, mad, little man you are. So angry aren’t you? Bless you sir. May God bless you.

  • Shalomdel says:

    We all have a soul.
    May any one that think they are so
    “smart” and “almighty” to prove that we don’t.
    There is proof out there besides Sacred scriptures in this world. That all of us have a soul. Supernatural events, with scientific explanation behind it. Is out there. Especially when It comes to Christ. And Christ resurrection.
    It takes research and not to rely on your own limit of understanding and God given intelligence.
    There’s always some one that knows less than you. But there’s always some one that knows more than you do.

  • Shalomdel says:

    Prayers for everyone.

  • AKS says:

    I think am really enjoying Patrick submissions. No knowledge is a waste after all.

  • Paul says:

    It’s obvious you care little for the truth of the matter. There was one thing Adam and Eve were not to do. You claim there was no law, therefor no sin. Obviously one law is a law and they thoughtfully chose to break it. Immerse yourself in the teaching of the church and you may not convert, but your arguments will improve.

  • Ni says:

    All I know that I have my free will and the sanctity of my privacy of thoughts. It’s the evil within us could be our best enemy, as I’ve noticed everyone of us has this self righteous tendency on to judged others or how we base our standards in hating others if not living with our standard, everyday we have a chance to practice this free will to the road to heaven or hell , to do good for others or to the cause of their deaths as the integral part of the circle in our lives. For example I had an arguments even to the point of losing my temper to one person who in my standard could be below of our expectations, but then in the middle of arguments, I sat back and looked at myself, I realized I need more understanding and self realization of so many things, there I was hating and feeling superior to that person that base on my self analyzation I was right, while she cursing me my education made me realized I was a fool to even argue our of feeling superior I felt guilty of acting superior in the middle of that chaos, then I realized Jesus Christ the reason He died for me and for others for me to realized that anger will lead to nothin but being arrogant to myself of not practicing His very teaching, to love others without reservations. To accept defeat for the sake of deep understanding. And to be humble in knowing myself.

  • The humble is necessity for all catholic people. Jesus is humble by Himself when faced with Pilate.

  • md Imtiaz alam says:

    Dear, friend, I read all the comment, specially Mr ganons, see he believes in science, good and he tries to belive and understand everything with scientific knowledge, Good ! , the question is 1) does god exists 2) why Adam commited sin knowing the consequence, etc etc, 3) regarding Lucifer many have already given their answers as to he did not want to worship or follow a human being form of Adam, due to his high status and knowledge,
    I myself asked many times does god exist, how do I get my mind to accept that god really exists, until I got the answer, according to science there is no place for miracle if a human being jumps or fall from 1000 feet he has to die, if a human body does not get food for 7 days or more he has to die, and many such fact, but there has been many incident when such miracle happened, a man survives a 100 metre fall, a man survives buried in earthquake debris for more then 14 days and many many more other miracle thing which goes totally against science,
    Why ?????? Because there is something superpower – the God which turns unexpected into expected and vice versa,
    2) we know many thing that’s going to harm us , still we do it out of human curiosity , like we know cigarette causes cancer still we smoke,
    I am still a learner and have very little knowledge compared to all you above writer . thank you

  • Wachiuri says:

    Lucifer is the cause of all Evil. So where did evil come from before Lucifer? I don’t understand

  • Paul says:

    Dear Patrick, God will always be God and he does what ever he wants.as you bring up more disputing views about he’s existence,he is aware that’s if you are human or not but for when you will encounter him I do not know.I just want you to know the world it’s self has already enough evidence to if or not God exist,but believe is key and believe is free will therefore choice is important.it is only a thing of grace to have the strong believe in God and on your human side the effort towards your believe is your choice.
    Fire is seen,but heat is spirit.

  • Bocephus says:

    Patrick, I’ll keep you in my prayers. Whatever misery you might have endured growing up Catholic pales in comparison to the misery you’ll endure from dying in your current embittered, hateful, and ill-informed state. Your catechists might have sucked at communicating it (I know mine did), but God loves you more than you can imagine.

  • Voodie Myers says:

    Am I correct, remembering being told that after Lucifer’s fall, with his followers, God decided to take away the remaining angels free will, so this rebellion by the angels could never happen again? I absolutely don’t remember where I got the idea! It could’ve been a dream, for all I know!

  • Luis plaza says:

    And now We know what is going on with Mr Patrick.
    This is the perfect example of what happens to our young people in The church their bad experience growing up and not have at least one person to tell you that God Loves you and cared about you.
    Brothers and Sisters We Need to Wake up and really live the Gospel!!!

    • Luis says:

      I understand what you are saying
      I have been there, there was a time in my life that I question everything and let me tell you the more questions the less answers I got
      Now I am not trying to convince you of anything you have free will and I respect it.
      I believe that God will call you if you say yes like He did to Me and believe me I was stubborn He is Almighty and He loves you.give Him and give yourself a chance
      I know is worth it !
      I love you Brother don’t get discouraged!

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