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Is heaven a place or only a state of mind?

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Recently, in our parish Bible study class, the leader stated that heaven is not a place but is in our minds, and he quoted sections 2794–2796 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church as a source for this opinion. I am deeply troubled by this concept. If heaven is not a place, then why did Jesus ascend into heaven as he left his apostles? Why would he say that he was going to prepare a “place” for them, if one did not exist? Why does the Catechism say heaven is “a way of being”? I have not been back to Bible class since this bomb was dropped on me.


Your distress shows the difficulty of expressing transcendent concepts in mere words. The truth is, we don’t know exactly what heaven is like—even if we did, we could not reduce it to language, which is a human device incapable of containing God.

Your group leader’s statement that heaven is “in our minds” is misleading, however. Heaven is within us, in the sense that each Christian is a temple of the indwelling Trinity. But it is no more accurate to say that heaven is only within us than it is to say that, by virtue of our receiving the sacraments, Jesus exists only within us. God and heaven live within us—but they also have an objective life beyond us as well.

God, in a sense, is heaven. In 1 Maccabees 3:18, for example, the author uses “Heaven” as a name for God (to avoid using the name it was forbidden to pronounce). Heaven exists wherever God is. Jesus said, “The kingdom of heaven is at hand” (Mt 4:17), meaning that, since God took on flesh, heaven itself is here, among us. After death, our experience of heaven will be to enter fully into the intimate love of the Holy Trinity, to our everlasting and perfect joy. To the extent that we participate in that love while on earth, we begin to share the joy of heaven now. Catherine of Siena said, “All the way to heaven is heaven.”

You are right that the Bible refers to “heavenly places.” We must keep in mind that time and space are finite concepts; God is not bound by them, nor could God live in one physical place, as we think of it, because the physical universe is his creation and cannot contain him. Heaven is a place, but not a particular space.

We must understand the symbolic language of the Bible and the saints as an attempt to communicate the ineffable. We do not understand literally terms such as seeing God “face to face.” We rejoice in theirmeaning: that we will be with God, intimate with him, unhindered by our mortal limitations.

As the Catechism says (section 1024), “This perfect life with the Most Holy Trinity—this communion of life and love with the Trinity, with the Virgin Mary, the angels and all the blessed—is called ‘heaven.’ Heaven is the ultimate end and fulfillment of the deepest human longings, the state of supreme, definitive happiness.”

We leave up to God “where” and “how” he fulfills his promise.



  1. Patrick Gannon Reply

    So “heaven” is not really a place, but according to other articles in this forum, Hell is a place, right? It has to be a “place” in order for “hellfire” to do its job. There has to be real pain, and that has to happen in a place. Where is this place?

    The RCC can’t define heaven and can’t tell us the place where Hell is, yet we’re supposed to believe these things are real because of interpretations of texts written by ignorant, primitive people trying to understand the natural world, and because an organization that benefits by spreading such beliefs – particularly through indoctrination of innocent children who have not yet learned critical thinking skills, tells us that we must believe this or suffer punishment.

    The only thing we know for sure is that we do not know. I suggest that we don’t “believe” anything. Accept our ignorance rather than lie to ourselves with unfounded beliefs that lack any objective, empirical evidence whatsoever. Lying to ourselves – telling our brains we know something that the brain knows it does not know and has no evidence for, seems like it would set up a conflict in the brain. I look around the world and wonder if this internal conflict might explain why we are so screwed up as a species.

  2. Patrick Gannon Reply

    “we could not reduce it to language, which is a human device incapable of containing God.” Don’t the bible and the catechism attempt to contain God within their pages using human language? Are not humans made in the image and likeness of Yahweh, who used words – language – carved on stone to tell us what we must and must not do? Yahweh was capable of using words to describe himself – isn’t that what the bible is? – but he just couldn’t find the words to describe heaven? He seemed to have little trouble describing Hell using human language.
    “God and heaven live within us—but they also have an objective life beyond us as well.” Objective? Really? (not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts). Where is the objective evidence for Yahweh and heaven?
    “Jesus said, “The kingdom of heaven is at hand" (Mt 4:17), meaning that, since God took on flesh, heaven itself is here, among us.” Well, that’s one possible interpretation, but Jesus had just begun to preach and had not told anyone that he was the “kingdom of heaven.” It’s more probable that he was saying that end-times were at hand, to be followed by the kingdom of heaven for those who repented and believed the right things. The whole idea of a Messiah, was to bring about the renewed paradise – a kingdom of heaven. It’s too early in his ministry for Jesus to be claiming to be god. We can look at Mt 3:1-2, just before this and see that John the Baptist used those same words. Was he also claiming to be god?
    “Heaven is a place, but not a particular space.” Well, a place is “a particular position or point in space.” How can you have a place without a space? (space is a continuous area or expanse that is free, available, or unoccupied). This sounds like a concept that violates our natural laws.
    “We must understand the symbolic language of the Bible and the saints as an attempt to communicate the ineffable.” The Church doesn’t rely on symbolic language when the bible refers to Hell. The catechism calls it a place of hellfire. Clearly it was originally meant to be symbolic, because of the four Hell’s in the bible, the one Jesus referred to was Gehenna – the Jerusalem town dump, and he was clearly speaking of it in symbolic terms. However the Church decided it would be more beneficial to turn Jesus into a monster by insisting that Gehenna (Hell) was a real place – again, one that somehow exists without a space in which to burn the bodies that are to be punished… And they say quantum mechanics makes one’s head spin!
    “Heaven is the ultimate end and fulfillment of the deepest human longings, the state of supreme, definitive happiness."” How can this be unless we’re turned into zombies? If we remain aware of the billions roasting in Hell, at least those of us who are decent, caring beings, could never be truly happy, knowing this and being unable to do anything about it. Heaven would have to turn us into zombies. Who cares? Whoever the zombie is, it won’t be who we are now. Is that heaven? I’d rather simply be dead; in Sheol, (the first of four Hells in the bible).
    Yeah, the Church knows all about Hell, but it doesn’t know squat about heaven, and it doesn’t know why we should seek it in the first place, so they focus more on avoidance of Hell than pursuit of heaven. It’s a fear-based religion.

  3. Manuel Reply

    I think heaven is like our soul. But is hard to understand for people with out Faith. And for people with Faith we don’t even need proof or explanation.

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