My friend said that Christ died once for all, so we don't need redemptive suffering souls. How should I respond?

By April 10, 2015 8 Comments

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My friend said that Christ died once for all, so we don’t need redemptive suffering souls. How should I respond?


A Scripture verse to point your friend to is Colossians 1:24: “Now I [Paul] rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church.”
Paul doesn’t mean that Christ’s death is insufficient for universal redemption. He is simply saying that his own incorporation into the mystical body of Christ (the Church) means that his sufferings can be helpful for other members of the body (the Colossian Christians to whom he is writing). They are helpful only because Paul is united to Christ in his Church and is offering his sufferings to Christ for the sake of the Church.
In the same way, suffering souls can similarly offer up their sufferings for the benefit of others.


  • Pascal says:

    Not sufficient

  • badong says:

    Amen, alleluia

  • Visuca says:

    I agree with Pascal here: “not sufficient” – there is SO MUCH to debate here that perhaps we would need ‘a Forum’.

  • jetgop says:

    Once saved always saved! That of course doesn’t mean that once you’re saved from Gods redeeming grace you will be sinless as we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of our coming God! Jesus paid the price once for all. Those who say different are questioning the limits of God’s love! Additionally, once we accept the redemption by Jesus, we must strive to sin no more and when we fall (we all will), we must go to God (with or without a priest) and ask for forgiveness. The blood and water that poured from the side of Jesus covers all sin (past, present, and future). As we are saved by grace, we will not lose our salvation; however, we can be covered in the filth of sin if we do not go to God and confess our sins. We are responsible to hold ourselves accountable before the Lord. We are also to encourage others to do the same. Of course, this doesn’t mean to judge them, it means to forgive one another and help them on their walk with God.
    Additionally, people keep clamoring that you either must confess through a priest while others say you can go directly to God. The truth is, we can go directly to God and ask for His forgiveness. We are children of God and can go directly to our heavenly father as through the crucifixion the veil that separated us had been torn. It is also true that we can go to God directly in the presence of the Priest in the confessional booth. Look to John 20:23 where it doesn’t say the apostles are forgiving or retaining sin, it clearly indicates that the apostles are hearing the person confessing their sins to God and with the knowledge of given to us from God that all sins confessed to Christ are forgiven, the priest informs them of their forgiveness. In a sense, the priest in this example reiterates to the confessor that God forgives their sins and as Christians we are to go and sin no more.

  • Friend of JC says:

    And Christ Himself: “Love one another, as I have loved you.” Seems simple enough, until we take stock of how Christ loved us– through self-sacrifice and suffering.

  • Bryson says:

    Hebrews chapters 9-10, say Christ’s offering was A ONE TIME DEAL AND WAS SUFFICIENT. The Roman Church is simply trying to protect non-biblical terms respectively called a “sacrament” and “the mass.” Concerning His offering, Christ said, “IT IS FINISHED.” Hebrews just confirmed it. BE A BIBLE BELIEVER INSTEAD OF A SACRADOTAL IDOL WORSHIPPER.

  • Faith Dwyer says:

    I disagree with this universal interpretation. Christ died for ALL—-I agree with that. But—there is a caveat—-to accept the gift of salvation requires repentance, commitment and the love of Christ. What does it mean to love Christ? It means, acceptance, repentance, obedience, etc. It’s not as though humans can continuing living in sinful impunity and feel they are “covered” by Christ’s death which is the core of universalism. Sorry—doesn’t work that way..

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