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Did Mary have other children apart from Christ?

First off, the term “brother” had several meanings in the bible, as such it did not exclusively refer to the strict conventional use of the term, it also meant “Cousins” (1 Chr. 23:21–22), Kinsmen (Deut. 23:7; Neh. 5:7; Jer. 34:9, 2 Kgs. 10:13–14), even “Nephew” and “Uncle” had the word “Brother” used in their place (Gen. 14:14, Gen. 29:15) There was no word for “Cousin” in Hebrew and Aramaic as we have in English and other Germanic languages today. For this reason people who spoke and wrote in these languages often employed the easy general word “brother” to substitute for the more clumsy circumlocutions like “Son of my father’s brother”. Even though the Greek language in which the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible) was translated had a separate word for “cousin” the translator still stick with “brother” since it would be risky to begin deciphering each context of the Hebrew usage of the word to assign their proper word.


When the Angel of God told her “You will conceive and bear a Son” she replied “How can this be since I know not any man”? (Luke 1:34) By the time Mary was giving this reply, she was already betrothed to Joseph. Normally, if she had the intention of having conjugal union with him, she’d have quickly accepted the Angel’s message, yet she didn’t. This goes on to prove the traditional belief that Mary had vowed perpetual virginity while she was serving in the temple as this was not uncommon at the time. If this were not the case, then her question to the Angel would make absolutely no sense. Again, at the foot of the cross, remember Jesus entrusted Mary to the care of St John (John 19:26-27). It would be impossible for Christ to make such a statement if Mary indeed had other biological children. It rather makes more sense to hold, with the ancient Fathers, that those “brethren” mentioned (James, Joseph, Simon and Jude) were just his relatives. Some people had believed that those were Joseph’s children from an earlier marriage, that he was a widower when he married Mary. But more recently, we now understand that these were actually Christ’s cousins. James in particular was the Son of another Mary wife of Clopas (who according to the second-century historian Hegesippus was the brother of Joseph, the foster-father of Jesus) It may be hard to understand the exact relationship of Christ with all those named above, but one thing the Bible makes clear from what we have seen is that, no matter who these were, they were not biological children of Mary. “His [Christ’s] origin is different, but his [human] nature is the same. Human usage and custom were lacking, but by divine power a Virgin conceived, a Virgin bore, and Virgin she remained” (Sermons 22:2 [A.D. 450]). By GabrielMary Alimba


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  1. The whole point of this exchange seems to suggest that the Lord Jesus is differentiating between blood brothers and ‘brothers in Christ’ as we might call them today:
    Luke 8:19 “Then his mother and his brothers came to him, but they could not reach him because of the crowd. 20 And he was told, “Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, desiring to see you.” 21 But he answered them, “My mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and do it.”
    And a separate issue, after the birth of Jesus, when Joseph was still alive, why wouldn’t they not have had normal marital relations? After all, that’s something that God encourages! (1 Cor 7:7 “5 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.”

    • Suzy, your point is well made. Jesus brothers are mentioned (Mt 12:46, Luke 8:9, Mk 3:31). James, Josie (Joseph), Simon, and Judas ( Mt 13:55). Jesus’ sister are not mentioned by name, but there is an inference to sisters (Mt 13:56). His brother go to a festival without Jesus ( Jn 7:1-10). In Acts 1:14 His brother are praying with the disciples. Gal. 1:19 mentions James was Jesus brother. The church claims that these brothers were cousins, but the Greek word for brother is mentioned in every circumstance. The Greeks have a word for cousin, and it was not used.
      Another argument that the church uses is that Joseph was a widow with 6 children, again this has no biblical base. Why were they not mentioned in the In the Egypt narrative ( Mt12:13-15)?Why are they missing in trip to Nazareth? (Mt 12: 20-23)? Why are they not mentioned when Mary, And Joseph went to the Temple with Jesus ((Lk 2:4-7)? And finally, the icing on the cake is this: “But he (Joseph) had no union with her (Mary) until she gave birth to a son. And he gave Him the name of Jesus ( Mt1: 25).

      • Her point is well made? St. Paul, in Galatians 1:19 identifies James as an “apostle” and a “brother” of the Lord. there are only two James’ that fit both these criteria in scripture. One was a son of Zebedee (Acts 12:1-2), the other a son of Alphaeus (Luke 6:15-16); neither had a father named Joseph.
        We see James and Joseph (also called Joses), who are called Jesus’ “brothers”, named in (Mark 6:3). However, the mother of James and Joseph (Joses) is referred to as the “other Mary” in scripture.
        Matthew 27:56
        “Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of Zebedee’s sons.”
        Mark 15:40
        “Some women were watching from a distance. Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joseph, and Salome.”
        Now play close attention, This mother of James and Joseph is referred to as the “other Mary”,
        Matthew 28:1
        “After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.”
        Matthew 27:61
        “Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were sitting there opposite the tomb”
        Mark 15:47
        Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joseph saw where he was laid.
        We know this “other Mary” is not the mother of Jesus, For in John’s Gospel we read:
        John 19:25
        “Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene”.
        Here we can see that there’s THREE Mary’s, FIRST the mother of Jesus, second, her “SISTER” (relation) who is also named Mary, who is the wife of Clopas, .THIS is the “OTHER MARY” referenced in (Matthew 27:61 & Matthew 28:1) who is the mother of James and Joseph – who are the “brothers” of Jesus.
        No ones denies that they were related to Jesus by blood but they were not His uterine brothers.

        • Anthony, you nailed it. I made a family tree exactly with all these names and relations. Jesus had 12 apostles, 6 of them were family….but none of them his blood brothers, since the Bible tells us the names of their mothers and fathers….. and none of them have the Virgin Mary as their mother. I wonder why people like Suzi and Maria Gomez did not see this….don’t they read the Gospels? Mah!

          • the problem is that many do not read the Bible but take man-made Catholic teachings for the truth..

          • Why did Jesus look at John and tell him to take care of Mary from that point on? Would that not have been Joseph’s job as her husband? And that is the very question that brings it all together. When the father died, the eldest son became the head of the family – why would Mary and Jesus brethren, who all would have been his younger 1/2 brothers be seeking for him in the first place? Why dont we hear or see Joseph anywhere else in the New Testament after Jesus stays in Jerusalem to teach the scribes? Why isnt he at the cross? Logically, Joseph has died. Another logical conclusion is that Mary was married a second time after Joseph died to a man named Alpheus if indeed it is not another name for Joseph, for James the son of Alpheus, was also the Lord’s brother through Mary.

        • Your point is only valid if there are specifically only two apostles named James, before Pentecost the 11 were named and Judas was replaced. These are a special 12 that Will judge the 12 tribes of Israel, but clearly there were more than 12 apostles. Paul for one was one of the “some are appointed as apostles” so at least 13 which breaks the 12 only idea. But as many as 25 are mentioned most by name: so just as there are 3 Mary’s there are three James’s
          Also, the new testament was almost all written in Greek not Hebrew. The only time “Lord’s brother” is mentioned by Paul is in respect to James. Paul mentions so many people by name in greetings calling them HIS brother or sister in Christ. It also says that Joseph kept her a virgin until after the child was born, the only requirement to fulfill the prophecy sign that a virgin will give birth to a child. Why wouldn’t it say just Joseph kept her a virgin period? The post also mentions Luke 1:34 this often translated “how can this be since I am a virgin?” She was betrothed or engaged and should be a virgin. betrothals could be 9 months to years while the bridegroom prepared a place for his bride. Perhaps this is the source of her question. Perhaps she knew it was going to be immediate. These reasons are just as speculative about her mind in asking the question as the original post. Perhaps it is just as it is asked I am a virgin how will this happen?

          • Hey Bill, it is funny, that I have held a presentation on this very subject, talking about the answer that the Virgin Mary gave to the Archangel Gabriel only two weeks ago, and here we have you talking about the same thing, but with a different view. When we talk about historical things, meaning things of the remote past, we must consider all the facts of that time, and taking them into consideration when coming to a conclusion.
            Let me explain my conclusion: Mary was consecrated to the Lord by her parents, who presented her to the temple’s High Priest at the very young age of 3. Mary was going to serve at the temple, and become a virgin. This was a very serious matter, and taken ultra-seriously by the High Priest and the society at large. That means that Mary was going to be a virgin, not until she gets married, but for ever. We find virgins also in the Greek and Roman societies of Mary’s time. A virgin was a highly respected woman, and she would be put to death, if she will lose her virginity; she had to remain Virgin till her death. The Romans later on, allowed a virgin to lose her virginity after she became 35 years old, without being put to death. In the contrary, all the other girls were requested to remain virgins till they got married, and this custom was honoured and highly respected not only by the Jewish society but everywhere in the western civilized world till the 1950’s, then especially in the angle Saxon world, it became fashion to lose the virginity as soon as possible, long before getting married, as we all know.
            Mary must have been a very special virgin, and so devoted to serve God and His temple, too much even for the religious society of her time, that they decided to give her away as a spouse. Who knows how hard must have been for the people working at the temple, to be constantly reminded how truly one must serve the Lord. We see it even in our corporate world of today, how good, hard working people are sent away, out of jealousy of the not so hard working others.
            And so it came that Mary, at the age of 16, was given as a spouse to a man, called Joseph, who will take her as a fiancée for a year at first, and then marry her, all in accordance to the Jewish customs and laws. One other virtue of Mary, beside purity was obedience. Mary learned to obey, no matter what, so she left the temple with no questions asked.
            But for Mary there was only one thing that mattered: she has given herself to God, and she was a Virgin, not because she did not have sex yet, but it was her Status: she was a Virgin, full stop, and that for the rest of her life. And she really meant it. In her pure heart, she knew that God will take care of her. Here we find in her a third virtue: Trusting in God.
            When the Archangel Gabriel came to her, she was officially the fiancée of Joseph. It was expected from her to get married and have a family, and until then, she would not have sex with anyone, of course. If someone would tell such a girl, that she was going to have a baby boy, the most logical answer would have been: “Oh, how nice for you to tell me that, I am so glad that my first born will be a boy. I will tell Joseph this, and I am sure he would be very happy to hear it.” But no, her answer was: “ How can this be, I am a virgin (or in some other translations: I do not know any man). What kind of an answer is that?!? The Archangel Gabriel did not say: “Look, Mary, I came here to tell you that you are pregnant”, there and then her famous answer would have made sense, true? Her answer points to the fact that she was a Virgin, that special class of women, who would never sleep with a man, no matter what. Her answer: “How can this be; I am a Virgin” makes perfect sense.
            Joseph, who was a righteous man, wanted to leave her, as soon as he found out, that she was pregnant. But it was an angel that came to him and told him the truth. Since he was a righteous man, he understood the plan of Lord, and accepted her the way she was, including that Mary had consecrated herself to the Lord, and she had to remain virgin till her death. He honoured that, never touched her, never had any children with her (all the other men mentioned in the Gospels as brothers of Jesus, have all, no exception, a mother and a father named by name. And none of them have our Mary as mother. Yes, double check all the Gospels, they all say that!), and he is well known and respected as a Saint because of it.
            Mary’s determination to remain a Virgin was so strong, and her big YES was so sincere, because the world known to her, was the world of God, serving God 24/7 since the tender age of 3. God had prepared her spirit for His plan, as we all know.
            The Holy Spirit, who fathered Jesus through Mary, wants us to understand that Jesus was her first born male, not because there were others, no. But it was the Jewish custom to consecrate the first born male to God at the Temple, and that is what she did. And Jesus fulfilled the Law and was consecrated. The same goes with the word “until” when describing the relationship between Joseph and Mary. Not because Joseph had sex with her after Jesus was born, but to announce to the world, that he was not the father of Jesus. That is how the Holy Spirit works, my friend. Surely different from ours. Hey, don’t blame me. Who has ears, listens, and who has eyes, sees. God bless you.

      • Totally agree with you Maria. I believe everyone who believes in Jesus Christ should read the Bible and pray before doing it. Find your own truth do not let NO man deceive you, for many will be deceived in the last days so says the Bible.. Dont follow traditions or religion, follow Christ The ONLY mediator between God And Man, and the ONLY one who can save us.. Thanks for sharing, Maria..n

      • Well say Maria Gloria Gomez. Mat:25 “But he had no UNION with her UNTIL she gave birth to a son”. Hope that this will clarify the situation to Suzy and all those questioning about the virginity of Mary. God bless you all.

      • Maria, Great comment. However, lets look at that one word in Matthew 1:25 “UNTIL” But he had no union with her as her husband “until” she had borne her firstborn Son. “her firstborn Son

      • I agree. Joseph did not have Union until she gave birth to Jesus. It would be unrealistic to think that from that time on Mary said no sex Joseph for the rest of their married life!! I am sure God would not have minded if two married people had sex eventually. Joseph respected what God was doing

      • Well stated, Maria. I found this article interesting.
        Question: “Did Jesus have brothers and sisters (siblings)?”
        Answer: Jesus’ brothers are mentioned in several Bible verses. Matthew 12:46, Luke 8:19, and Mark 3:31 say that Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see Him. The Bible tells us that Jesus had four brothers: James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas (Matthew 13:55). The Bible also tells us that Jesus had sisters, but they are not named or numbered (Matthew 13:56). In John 7:1-10, His brothers go on to the festival while Jesus stays behind. In Acts 1:14, His brothers and mother are described as praying with the disciples. Galatians 1:19 mentions that James was Jesus’ brother. The most natural conclusion of these passages is to interpret that Jesus had actual blood half-siblings.
        Some Roman Catholics claim that these “brothers” were actually Jesus’ cousins. However, in each instance, the specific Greek word for “brother” is used. While the word can refer to other relatives, its normal and literal meaning is a physical brother. There was a Greek word for “cousin,” and it was not used. Further, if they were Jesus’ cousins, why would they so often be described as being with Mary, Jesus’ mother? There is nothing in the context of His mother and brothers coming to see Him that even hints that they were anyone other than His literal, blood-related, half-brothers.
        A second Roman Catholic argument is that Jesus’ brothers and sisters were the children of Joseph from a previous marriage. An entire theory of Joseph’s being significantly older than Mary, having been previously married, having multiple children, and then being widowed before marrying Mary is invented without any biblical basis. The problem with this is that the Bible does not even hint that Joseph was married or had children before he married Mary. If Joseph had at least six children before he married Mary, why are they not mentioned in Joseph and Mary’s trip to Bethlehem (Luke 2:4-7) or their trip to Egypt (Matthew 2:13-15) or their trip back to Nazareth (Matthew 2:20-23)?
        There is no biblical reason to believe that these siblings are anything other than the actual children of Joseph and Mary. Those who oppose the idea that Jesus had half-brothers and half-sisters do so, not from a reading of Scripture, but from a preconceived concept of the perpetual virginity of Mary, which is itself clearly unbiblical: “But he (Joseph) had no union with her (Mary) until she gave birth to a son. And he gave Him the name Jesus” (Matthew 1:25). Jesus had half-siblings, half-brothers and half-sisters, who were the children of Joseph and Mary. That is the clear and unambiguous teaching of God’s Word.

    • Matthew 25:40 “And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it unto one of these my brethren (ADELPHON), even these least, ye did it unto me.”
      According to you, “ADELPHOS” MEANS UTERINE BROTHERS. Are these all Jesus’ uterine brothers?
      Romans 8:29 “For whom he foreknew, he also predestinated to be made conformable to the image of his Son; that he might be the firstborn amongst many brethren (ADELPHOIS)”.
      Christ also calls the Apostles “brothers” in Matthew 28:10 and John 20:17: and the word in both verses is the plural form of “Adelphos”.
      Would you claim that since the term “Adelphos” is used, that the apostles were the “uterine brothers” of Jesus?
      Here’s a little tutorial on the word “Adelphos”
      Hebrews 2:11 “Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them his brothers” (Adelphous).
      Here’s “ADLEPHOS” in the plural referring to all those in God’s family as Jesus’ “brothers”.
      Matthew 25:40 “And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it unto one of these my brethren (adelphōn), even these least, ye did it unto me”
      Hebrews 3:1 “Wherefore, holy brethren (ADELPHOI), partakers of the heavenly vocation, consider the apostle and high priest of our confession, Jesus”
      if we examine closely Matthew 13:55 where St. James and other men are called “brothers” of the Lord, we would see St. James as a cousin or a relative of Christ rather than a biological brother. For example, Galatians 1:18-19 tells us: “Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Cephas and stayed with him fifteen days. I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord’s brother.” (New International Version)
      Take note that this James who Paul speaks of is both called a “brother of the Lord” and an “apostle.” If we read the list of the 12 Apostles we read that there are two James. The first James is called a “son of Zebedee.” He would not be the James mentioned in Acts 12:1-2 for he was martyred early on. Even if it was him, his father was Zebedee, not Joseph.
      St. Paul must have referred to the second James, who was an apostle (Luke 6:15-16). This James has a father named Alphaeus, not Joseph. Thus, James the apostle and Jesus were not uterine brothers. Easy enough.

    • If all those mentions of brothers are actually cousins then John and James are cousins as well. Peter and andrew are cousins as well. My point is that why is the interpretation of brothers concerning Jesus being disputed and not all the other times the Bible mentions brothers. I contend that it is to cover the “Virgin Mary” image portrayed by the church. The Bible does not that indicate that Mary remained a virgin all her life. The Bible actually indicates that Joseph had relations with her after the birth of Jesus.

      • Mary was chosen among all by God to conceive his son Jesus. At the annunciation by angel Gabriel, Mary accepted the request even that she was betrothed to Joseph and knew that she may be subject of stoning.After the annunciation Mary go to her cousin Elizabeth and said “all the generation will praise me hereafter”.She followed Jesus on the way to Golgota. At the cross Mary was there in compassion with Jesus.Mary was present on the coming of the Holy Spirit. If you think that Mary believed in GOD & JESUS & THE HOLY SPIRIT – If you proclaim that Jesus is the Lord – if you believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the death ; I think that Mary too believe in that and I believe that she remain faithful to GOD and this without reserve. God bless you….

      • Mathew 1:25 and Joseph knew Mary after she gave birth to Jesus, she was NO virgin after that. Also people once a woman gives birth the hymen is brocken thus after that happens the woman is NOT a virgin NO more. We all respect and love Mary for being the mother of our SAVIOUR but not Reilly on her to save us or should we worship her in any way for the Lord in His commandments and throughout the Bible warns us about not being idolors.. Another thing is that in the wedding Jesus was they turned to Mary for that the wine had ended and SHE said go to my son and do how HE TELLS U,. if she had any kind of power she could’ve easely turned that water into wine.. People do.not let ypurselves be fooled, read the Bible and pray before and after so God can reveal himself to u… God bless u all…

        • Jesus obeyed his mothers words. Mother Mary is not worshiped SHE is honored. there is a lot of difference in worshiping and honored. It is very important to believe the word of God. Jesus called John and showed Mother Mary said This is your Mother, and said mother mary “lady” this your son.

      • That is the problem: We choose what we believe and reject what we do not believe. The question is: Which belief is the righteous one? All Christians would say: “The teachings of God or Jesus would tell you the truth”, But wait! We cannot actually see or hear god. People have heard from God the son, Jesus many millenniums back but he has returned to heaven and we can not actually hear from him again! so who is going to tell us the truth? Some people would say: “The bible!” Well, okay but as you know one piece of information can be interpreted or translated into hundreds, thousands, millions or even more different interpretations and translations. The bible contains numerous information that can be interpreted or translated in numerous ways. All the interpretations can not be true for sure, don’t you think? So where can we get that righteous belief? Does the bible have any information about the righteous source – the source of the righteous teaching? the source of God’s own teachings apart from the bible? There must be another source apart from the bible that we can learn from about God, Jesus and Mary – the Mother of God.

    • Bible Ten Commandments Catholic Ten Commandments
      I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
      I am the LORD thy God. Thou shalt have no strange gods before Me.
      Exodus 20:4-6 You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my Commandments.
      Deleted. See also idolatry in the Catholic Church
      (There is idolatry in the Papal system so the second Commandment has been deleted or sometimes it has been absorbed into the first. All remaining Commandments are therefore shifted along one count.)
      Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God In vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
      Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.
      Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD your God: in it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger that is within your gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
      Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.
      (The Sabbath is the fourth Commandment by normal count. The day to be kept is no longer mentioned since they changed the Sabbath to Sunday.)
      (Note that God had more to say about the fourth Commandment than all others and with good reason. It is very important.)
      Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
      Honour thy father and thy mother.
      Thou shalt not kill.
      Thou shalt not kill.
      Thou shalt not commit adultery.
      Thou shalt not commit adultery.
      Thou shalt not steal.
      Thou shalt not steal.
      Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
      Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
      Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.
      Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife.
      (The Tenth Commandment is split into two to get back to Ten Commandments.)
      Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s goods.


      • Who are you giving lessons? If you’re right about your words that Catholicism is against the word of God then you are wrong too because the Holy Spirit gave the Word of God To Catholics who in turn out of their traditions after the Holy Spirit filled them out and the mother of Jesus was there, Mary and all the apostles except the traitor received the Holy Spirit and all became brace enough to go out and preached the Crucified Lord even to the point of death. The same Word of God that Catholics, not you, but Catholics who as they were being persecuted and killed passed their beliefs orally until their testimony was put in writing and it wasn’t you who did it, but Catholics. You and all other Protestants are thieves pretending to know what Catholics did and wrote with their blood and it was not until late in the third century that the Bible came to be by the Catholics and if you believe in the Bible you believe in the Catholics or you are one of those thieves that is coming from behind the door that our Lord Jesus made with keys given to Peter not to you period.

    • In Genesis, the Lord says He will put enmity between the ‘seed of the Woman’ and satan. This is the only time the ‘seed of a woman’ is mentioned; usually, it is the seed of man. This hints at the virgin birth. Have you ever wondered how Jesus can be called the ‘Son of God’?
      Because He is! If He were born of the seed of a woman as well as being conceived by the seed of a man, then He would not be the Son of God but the son of some unnamed man! Jesus was divinely conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and is truly Son of God. Further, the virgin birth was prophesied by Isaiah who said the virgin shall conceive and bear a son. Some people mis-translate this a ‘a maiden’ but as a converted Jewish minister said, ‘If this is the best sign that the Almighty God can give of the coming Messiah, then it is no sign at all! Thousands of maidens give birth to sons every day!’ Think about it.
      Mary was conceived, by special Divine design, without the stain of Original Sin – this was so that the Son of God, to be conceived in her womb, would not have passed onto Him the evil fallen nature of humanity; Both Mary and Jesus would be born free of the Original Sin, like Adam and Eve were before the fall. It has nothing to do with the puritanical notion that sex is evil.
      The only time sex is evil is when it is distorted and defiled by not being practiced according to the divine design.

    • I think the importtance is seeing that the Catholic church wants to view Mary as ever-virgin– a man-made Catholic thing….what kind of wife was she if she remained a virgin–there was no point & not Biblical

      • The emphasis here is that Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit when Mary was a virgin and not what was her married life was after the birth of our Lord.

    • Truthfully I don’t either. The nativity of Mary is even mentioned in the Koran. So if Mary was born without Original Sin and when the Angel of the Lord came to her and she believed and trusted the Lord then she had already outdone Adam as Eve’s sin which was to not trust and obey God.
      We have to be careful not to think we know the mind of Mary. She is a sacred individual separate and her own. She made good decisions based on Love and trust in God. Even if she had conceived other children she would have as a wife. There’s no sin here.

  2. Suzy, as the article says, tradition holds that Mary was a consecrated virgin before she was betrothed to Joseph. From there tradition holds that Joseph was a widower, and Mary was to act as mother to his children, while remaining faithful to her vow of virginity. Plus, practically speaking, if I were Joseph, and Mary was the vessel the Lord chose to carry his son into the world, that would make her beyond extraordinary in my eyes, and I don’t think I would have any thought of “normal marital relations”.

    • But if those disciples who lived so closely to Jesus during his last 3+ years on earth didn’t get who He was exactly, how could Joseph so early in His life? Perhaps we are simply coming to this from our own standpoints?

    • Matthew 1:25 tells us that Joseph new not Mary until after Jesus was born. “Knew her not” means he didn’t have sex with her until after Jesus’ birth. Mary was a virgin when she became pregnant with Jesus but did not remain so after His birth.

      • “Knew her not” is in regards to the baby Jesus, whom, upon gazing on the Christ, along with the three wise men, does Joseph finally and more fully understand both his dream and all that has and still will occur. To infer what you do is opposite to what someone in such circumstances as Joseph and Mary would be inclined towards.

        • to “know” most often means sexual relations throughout the Bible so no it’s not in regards to Jesus….mary is no longer a virgin and the catholic church is clearly the great w**** of Revelation

          • Funny how easy it is to say such things about the church who holds her practitioners to the absolute highest moral standards in all of Christianity without excuses and new man made rules. God’s laws don’t modernize and change with society and neither should his church. Luke 11:18. How could the church be evil if she is the only one still teaching us to obey God in all that we do regardless of what society is telling us to do. How could the devil stand against himself?? Wake up

      • This is exactly true. That means they might have had children then after! It’s not entirely logical to rule out that fact.

        • If they did as you say we should not rule out where were they?
          Mary, Joseph and Jesus went to Jerusalem when Christ was just 12 years, no mention of their other children was made,
          Mary went with Christ to the Feast of Canaan, no mention of them was made.
          In fact, the Good Book makes mention of the fact that, long after Joseph was no more, (when the children of Mary and Joseph if they ever existed would have only their mother) Mary, her cousins, the ‘cousins’ of Christ and other women faithfully followed Christ; wouldn’t it be funny that all these people are mentioned but the biological children of Mary and Joseph, the brothers and sisters of Christ from the same womb will not be mentioned?…..

      • You are very correct.
        In fact the bible says Jesus was her firstborn son:
        Matthew 1:25
        And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son:and he called his name Jesus.
        If there was a firstborn son, there must be a second son. Otherwise the bible would have said she brought for her son.
        But the truth is that the question of her perpetual virginity does not make any difference in Christianity. Whether or not she remained a virgin is of no spiritual consequence.

        • YES you are soo right
          If Christ (from Romans 8:29) is the first born of many (for those whom He foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of his son in order that he may be the FIRST BORN of a large family) of which i am part, and Mary is the mother of Christ
          (Luke 1:41-43; ‘ When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the child leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT and exclaimed with a loud cry “Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb. And why has this happened to me that the MOTHER OF MY LORD comes to me” ‘)
          What then is Mary to me with the fact of Christ being my brother? YES SHE is my mother too.

          • You miss the point! The mother part is not important…the LORD part is! JESUS is the important part of that equation, not Mary. The fetus John the Baptist felt the presence of Jesus via the Holy Spirit. This is a preview of events between these two individuals yet to come.
            Mary was a blessed woman in her time, and she was chosen by God…no one can deny that. The Bible (at least the KJV,ESV,NKJV, NASB, NIV,ASV and others) is clear that Mary went on to have other children with her husband Joseph. James (writer of the book bearing the same name, identifies himself as the Lord’s brother) Jude (Judas) is also a brother. There were 2 other brother’s named Joses (Joseph) and Simeon. Mary is NOT a deity, just another servant of Jehovah whom found favor like all the OT prophets and allowed their lives to glorify God.

  3. Matt. 13:53-56, JB: “When Jesus had finished these parables he left the district; and, coming to his home town, he taught the people in their synagogue in such a way that they were astonished and said, ‘Where did the man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers? This is the carpenter’s son, surely? Is not his mother the woman called Mary, and his brothers [Greek, a·del·phoi′] James and Joseph and Simon and Jude? His sisters [Greek, a·del·phai′], too, are they not all here with us?’” (On the basis of this text, would you conclude that Jesus was Mary’s only child or that she had other sons as well as daughters?)
    The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, Vol. IX, p. 337) admits regarding the Greek words a·del·phoi′ and a·del·phai′, used at Matthew 13:55, 56, that these “have the meaning of full blood brother and sister in the Greek-speaking world of the Evangelist’s time and would naturally be taken by his Greek reader in this sense. Toward the end of the 4th century (c. 380) Helvidius in a work now lost pressed this fact in order to attribute to Mary other children besides Jesus so as to make her a model for mothers of larger families. St. Jerome, motivated by the Church’s traditional faith in Mary’s perpetual virginity, wrote a tract against Helvidius (A.D. 383) in which he developed an explanation . . . that is still in vogue among Catholic scholars.”

  4. Mark 3:31-35, JB: “His mother and brothers now arrived and, standing outside, sent in a message asking for him. A crowd was sitting round him at the time the message was passed to him, ‘Your mother and brothers and sisters are outside asking for you’. He replied, ‘Who are my mother and my brothers?’ And looking round at those sitting in a circle about him, he said, ‘Here are my mother and my brothers. Anyone who does the will of God, that person is my brother and sister and mother.’” (Here a clear distinction is drawn between Jesus’ natural brothers and his spiritual brothers, his disciples. No one claims that the reference to Jesus’ mother means anything different from what it says. Is it consistent, then, to reason that his natural brothers were not that but were perhaps cousins? When what is meant is not brothers but relatives, a different Greek word [syg·ge·non′] is used, as at Luke 21:16.)

    • Can you follow the Entire discussion, then all these points that have already been explained into details will not be brought up again.
      Can’t you see no one is really responding to your post?

      • He makes a perfectly valid point. The logic is solid. If I anything but agreement with him should be found, what should a reply be necessitated by?

  5. As taught to me, by the nuns and discussed with several priests who are friends of mine, over the years…the question of whether Mary had other children or ‘normal conjugal’ relations with Joseph is more a derision of her sanctity, then ‘normal’ curiosity. It is truly valid and worth while to have a greater discernment of terms used in the Bible in order to have a greater appreciation and deeper understanding to apply to our own lives. But to the discussion, a question of logic appears. At Lourdes, how could Mary declare to St. Bernadette that…”..I AM THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION..”. This theological statement is as it is stated, ” I AM”. No different in linguistic intent than God, the Father declaring to Moses..” I AM WHAT I AM.” Mary could have utilized any linguistic context or syntax, even an allegorical alliteration to express the point. But by declaring that she is the Immaculate Conception. Her Everlasting Virginity, before, during and through out Her life, becomes fact. How can those who declare the sanctity of Joseph, think him such a dullard that He would NOT BE Aware of his ‘special’ place and role in the caring and rearing of his ‘step-son’ entrusted; who is in fact the Son of God. People, please be aware that though this question was raised, in the early church not so much as a method to ‘bring-the-glory-of-Mary-down, but one of clarity. The Reformation was the water-shed Era when the ‘fire-brand’ Protestant theological fountain-heads went at and after the image and honorarium of Mary with both figuratively and literally with an ax. Smashing away with little regard to the truth. God, the Father brought into this world Absolute Truth and God-Head via the path of a purified and pure vessel, called Mary, the Ever Virgin.

    • I think you are elevating Mary to a position the Bible doesn’t give her. Where, for example, in the New Testament there any discussion of her status? You are giving her a divine status, making her equal to God – but look at how Jesus related to her compared with how He related to His heavenly Father. In Matthew 12: “46 While he was still speaking to the people, behold, his mother and his brothers stood outside, asking to speak to him 48 But he replied to the man who told him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 And stretching out his hand towards his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”…….that, incidentally, also serves to show how Jesus differentiated between “brothers” doesn’t it?
      And look how our Lord Jesus, the perfect sacrifice for our sins, perceived His own status: “5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, *** did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,*** 7 but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.” (Philippians 2). If Jesus doesn’t ‘equate’ Himself with His Father, far be it from us to elevate Mary above Him!
      You may have discussed with many friends, nuns and priests over the years, but read the glorious words for yourself, asking the great high Heavenly Priest (see Hebrews 3) by the power of His Spirit for your answers…..well, it’s just a suggestion from someone who would love you to enjoy an intimate relationship with the Name above all names – and isn’t that simply amazing? That we lumps of clay can chat to our Father any and every time we desire?

      • Yes, and so then we are being elevated, aren’t we? Do we not honour our mothers? It’s certainly right to do so. Mary is not a threat to us. We honour her because the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit honour her, and because she is honorable. If someone were lying about my mother, I would have a huge problem with that. Mary is one with God, deal with it.

        • “Mary is one with God” shows we are worshipping different entities, Alcide. In the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit I wish you every blessing.

        • Honour, great! Worship, no! I honour my mother but I do not pray to or through her!
          We already have access to the Father so y bring her into the equation?

        • Mary is NOT one with God. The conception was immaculate, not Mary. She was born into sin just like every other human on this earth. I think she would be horrified to know that people worship her as if she were part of the Trinity.

        • Certainly Mary was favored by God to bear his Son. No doubt. However, the phrase “Hail, Mary, full of grace” does not elevate Mary to the same level as Jesus, who is the source of our grace. Similar phrases were used in reference to others: 1. in the Old Testament: “Most blessed of women be Jael”, (Judges 5) 2. In the New Testament: “And Stephen, full of grace and power…” (Acts 7) The Catholic Church is stubbornly not in step with Scripture on its elevation of Mary, who, incidentally, is more like the rest of us sinners than she is like God, who alone is sinless. Acknowledging her need for grace, herself, and salvation, she addresses Jesus as “my Savior”. References to Mary in the New Testament are significantly rare: we are to put our attention on her Son. She would have it no other way. Is she not embarrassed and even grieved at all of the idolatrous accolades that are given in her honor, which, in reality dishonor God as well as her?

        • Honour her if u must, but u cannot make her a deity. I see people praying to her statue and giving her reverence due to the almighty. Now dts disgusting

    • The Blessed Virgin, as she is called, among other gracious names, when she said to St. Bernardette, “I Am The Immaculate Conception, She was saying, She was born without original sin. In every way, she was pure, and had to be, to carry the Son of God, and giving birth to Him Again, it says, she vowed perpetual virginity as she served in the Temple. And, she couldn’t lie, because she was about to bear the Son of God, through the Holy Spirit. Oh, and she would never lie, as the Son of God knows not untruths.

      • Dear Trish. We are comparing apples with pears. The Holy Scripture, breathed out / Inspired by God (2 Tim 3) vs traditions of man. I agree, the Son of God knows not untruths. Where, in the Bible, our only authoritative source, does God ever say one of His creatures was without sin, except of course Adam and Eve in Gen 1&2?

        • Suzy, yes, the Bible is our only “WRITTEN” source of authority, however, the Apostles were given to us to be our Authority of Tradition and verbal interpretation of the Lord lived by them, and then their successors. Keep in mind that the Bible was not sourced together and readily avaiable in all it’s books until the 300s AD, and until then is was through a letter or book here and there and mostly by word of mouth and tradition that the Word was spread. Even come the 300’s it was mainly word of mouth and tradition that spread the Word until the majority of Mankind began to read and be able to afford books. Br. Don – Diocesan Hermit

          • Not that I need to add anything because you stated everything so beautifully. The bible tells us that the pillar of truth is the church, it doesn’t say scripture, it says the church is the pillar of truth. Also, in Luke 1:48 Mary says all nations will call me blessed.

        • Suzy, you need to keep asking yourself: Which came first, the Church or the Bible. Which created the other? Jesus Christ created the church and named Peter as its earthly vicar. The apostles and disciples lived and shared the Gospel for many years before there ever was a written “Bible”. This Holy Verbal Tradition of the Church was finally written down and became the Holy Bible many decades after Christ’s crucifixion.
          John 21:25 says “Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.”
          Suzy, does the Bible ever say that ‘it’ is the ONLY source of truth concerning Jesus Christ? In fact what does the Bible refer to as the “Pillar and source of truth”? Paul says the Church is “the pillar and foundation of the truth.” (1 Timothy 3:15) .

          • Jay, a point in which we part is the Bible is 2 Timothy 3:16 (NIV)
            16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
            God breathed is HOLY SPIRIT who directed the writers of the Bible. (Read the first few verses of Jude to understand this more) As one commissioned to write, this means far more than an oral tradition passed from one generation to the next. The Lord knew this would have to stand the test of time, generations, languages and interpretations. It is truly a miracle. Please do not try to make it less by thinking the Catholic church is responsible for it.
            That said the answer to your question is yes, Revelation 22:18-19 18
            18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.

      • Dt logic will indicate her mother deserves reverence too and so on and so on. Let us stop the charade. Jesus has provided a way to the Father. It can be through none other

    • @aochcki, you are wise. Keep it up. I tell you, this shows you are close to heaven. Remember “… for You have hidden this these things from the wise and prudent and has reveal it to mere children (babes).” Matt 11:25,26; Lk 10:21
      “… I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter (reveal) what has been hidden since the foundation of the world.” Matt 13:35

  6. Why cant you just BELIEVE the TRUTH RECORDED IN that GOD BREATHED, INSPIRED BOOK; The BIBLE, instead of seeking some ” tradition says” answer. 1) The Bible says MARY was a virgin when she was conceived by the Holy Spirit(Luke 1-2/Matthew1-2) 2) IT CLEARLY says in Mark 6 that JESUS had 4 brothers, listed by NAME there and “sisters” atleast two.3) Scripture does not say Joseph was a widower, and brought children from another person before Mary. 4) the Virgin Birth of Christ is critical because a) Adams SIN NATURE was passed down through the Fathers SEED.birth to birth. Jesus was conceived by tbe Holy Spirit being the SEED, so to speak. JESUS was Not born with a SINFUL NATURE. b) Jesus was GOD IN HUMAN FORM, “God manifest in the flesh”(I Tim.3:15-16)He was SINLESS, HOLY inHis Life; and that qualified Him to be a SUBSTITUTIONARY, SIN ATONING , SACRIFICE and SHED BLOOD for The ETERNAL FORGIVENESS of SINS, ETERNAL SALVATION, ETERNAL LIFE, through FAITH ALONE in JESUS CHRIST (ACTS 16:31″BELIEVE ON the LORD Jesus Christ and you will be SAVED”.)(“Acts 4:12″Neither is therec SALVATION in any other, for there is NO OTHER NAME given among men by bc which we MUST BE SAVED”).JOHN3:16/I JOHN 4:7-8/Romans 5:8/Romans 6:23. Jesus BODILY RESURRECTION is the FOURTH “JESUS DIED and ROSE AGAIN”(I Cor.15:3/ I Thess.4:13-17″IF WE BELIEVE THAT JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN” There is COMFORTING HOPE!

  7. Why can’t people just believe, Gary? That’s because humanly speaking we can’t….the gift of the Holy Spirit opens our eyes to the beautiful, eternal truths of God’s Word written…..I think of the times when the devil tempted Jesus by twisting words of Scripture, but He always replied with the sword of the Spirit, using the words breathed out by God that inspired
    the various writers over the centuries. I understand Catholics revere tradition of men as much as Scripture. We need to stand on something firmer than human fallibility.

    • ‘When the SPIRIT comes He will remind you of all I have taught you and more so reveal to you things that have been hidden from the creation of the foundations of the Earth (..things Christ did not even teach us)’
      ‘But there are also many other things Jesus did; if every one of them were written down, I suppose the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.’ John 20:25 ( the last words of the GOSPEL)
      The Bible was written by Holy Spirit Inspired men. And at the time of the revelation of the end of days to John the beloved, there was no book like the Bible but individual scrolls and letters. And so the text of ” I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of THIS book: if anyone adds to them ( the prophecy) God will add to the person the plagues described in this Book; If anyone takes away from the words of the Book of this PROPHECY, God will take away the persons share in the tree of Life and in the Holy City described in this Book ” ( Rev 22; 18-19) applied to THE PROPHECY OF THAT BOOK; REVELATIONS.
      What i wish to say is that, the Bible is not the sole source of God’s teachings to his people.
      The Holy Spirit reveals as He so wishes.
      In the time of the apostles, for the sole aim of the fast propagation of the word and to overcome the language barrier, the Spirit of Tongues was most given;
      In the days of the Saints, for the sole aim of standing to your faith, the Spirit of STRENGTH was given ;
      In our days, for the sole aim of knowing the truth because soo many different doctrines are coming up (which was not so in the days past), the Spirit of Understanding, Wisdom and Knowledge is given

  8. Just my opinion, but I think any answer to this question can only be speculation. It is my HOPE that Jesus did have siblings, and even a wife and child. If God sent us a savior and redeemer to live here with us as a man, then why wouldn’t he truly live a typical life…….just a thought…..

    • The shear amount of ignorance and heresy going on in these comments is nothing short of sad and alarming. Mary’s perpetual virginity is Catholic dogma, and any catholics on this post saying anything different better question whether they truly are Catholics. And for those of you trying to point out things in the bible to substantiate blasphemous claims against Mary’s virginity should realize that the sole right of properly interpreting the inspired word of God lies in the catholic church, because Christ gave it that authority.

  9. What about James – the “Brother” of Jesus and head of the early church – wasn’t he seen as the natural leader not because he was one of the 12 but because he was Jesus’ brother – the notion of Mary’s virginity and the need for that came at least two generations after Jesus died when the Gospel of Matthew and Luke were written – Mark doesn’t talk about it – John doesn’t talk about it – Sexuality is not a horrible thing which need profane a person – Mary having a normal existence including sex with her husband doesn’t detract from her specialness as the Mother and disciple of Christ unless you somehow see sex as making one impure and not able to hold God’s grace – She was not just a vessel for a seed planted in a womb – she was a woman – Jesus had X and Y chromosomes so part of her was in part of him – otherwise you deny his humanity

    • Question
      If SEX is pure, why did Christ say
      … for they are the first fruits of the earth for no lie was found in their mouth and the were pure for they were chaste
      … for non shall be given to marriage or be married in the kingdom
      …. some make themselves virgins because man made them so, others from birth and yet other for the sake of the kingdom. Let those who can embrace, embrace it
      why did Paul inspired by the Spirit say
      … let not them deprive each other of themselves but unless agreed for a time to be righteous for prayers” if SEX does not affect righteousness

  10. I agree with almost everything you’ve said Rob, except that we can’t know for certain – we can guess – Jesus had X & Y chromosomes, can we? I believe just as God is able to create everything out of nothing, He could create a perfect human being from nothing. To state that part of her was in Jesus cannot be correct, since “there is no one perfect/righteous, no not one” (Romans 3) and Mary, although blessed and special and wonderful in very many ways I can’t comprehend, she was nonetheless a member of the human race and as such would have had the ‘sin gene’ if you will that we all inherited from Adam and Eve.

  11. Yes, the Bible is clear that Jesus had blood brothers and sisters. Good grief. Do people even question that? Two of Jesus’ half brothers wrote books of the Bible… James and Jude. Hello! Next thing you’ll be telling me Peter wasn’t married when the Bible is quite clear that ‘Peter’s mother-in-law was sick with a fever” and Jesus healed her.

  12. There is no good reason to postulate that Mary was an eternal virgin. This is just a twisted human-made “need” without any support. The Catholic effort to ascribe various non-Biblical attributes to Mary is harmful, because it sets her on a pedestal and interferes with the value of her faithfulness as an example to ordinary humans. Its root is a belief that there is something inherently wrong with human sexual relations, rather than accepting them as a good gift of God to be used in a responsible manner. It represents a reservation about God’s creation being good, yes very good, and thus borders on blasphemy. It does not diminish Mary that she had normal sexual relations with her husband Joseph, and this resulted in the birth of several children. Similarly the belief in Mary’s “immaculate conception” which diminishes the virgin birth by asserting its lack of uniqueness.

  13. Name other children of Mary let’s trace their origin and see if they were born after christ of before christ. Because at the time mary was being prophesied to by the Angel to have a baby, she was clearly a virgin. I want to know at which point Mary started having other children. Was it still with her bethroded, Joseph? Was it with anyone else after the crucifixion of christ? I want to understand at which point Mary started making other babies. Or if there is any biblical record that she remarried…just curious.

    • Read the Bible for yourself – it is quiet clear that Mary was a virgin before the Holy Spirit overshadowed her and furthermore, that she had other children after Jesus was born – the author of this story uses unsubstantiated references to back it up but there is substantiated church history that tells that Jesus had other half-brothers and half-sisters and that James and Jude were his half-brothers.

  14. Why would it matter to you SO MUCH if Mary had other sons or daughter..Jesus was born and become one of us from Mary’s womb and that it is all that matters ( for us real Christians). John 4:16 (and this is from the Bible from which you derived your interpretation of brothers being cousins etc) that Jesus says ” I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” . Now does it matter to us if one more person in the Bible is such or is not. What matters is ( for me ) that Salvation comes through Jesus’s death on the Cross. Even Abraham. Jacob, even Jeremiah, Job , and even Isaiah sometimes erred and are not considered perfect but stayed as friends of God. Now why would we have to establish another perfect human as Christ had been. What is the motive?

  15. This has got nothing to do with our salvation, if or not Mary had other children or not. Jesus was born of d virgin Mary and he is the saviour of d world and Mary will remain blessed from generation to generation. This argument will lead nowhere nor make us better Christian but let’s keep our focus and energy on being better people in d image and likeness of God.

  16. we have seen the life of Jesus and Mary together even upto the time Jesus was 12 years old when boy Jesus got lost in the temple and this is where we actually see the presence of Joseph in Jesus life (Luke 2:41 – 52). we dont hear of Joseph again but we see Mary and Jesus in different times even during the change of water into wine at the wedding in cana, at the time of crucification and death. where was Joseph during this time?. if Jesus really had brothers with a human nature, would they have even reacted during his suffering and death on the cross? why do we only see His mother and the apostles . if there were really brothers to Jesus would they be having that brotherly love and even be with him at the time of his suffering? at the time Jesus was aged 12 years Mary and Joseph had only Jesus to take care of.when were these other children born. Jude is mentioned twice in the bible as a brother and as a cousin, which is which?

    • After having all this argument what do you gain? if not feeding your curiosity? We are all Christians saved by the blood of Jesus Christ born of the Virgin Mary. Jesus teaches us to obey His word and follow Him. Why have all the discussion about Blessed Virgin Mary yet Someone seems not to accept that she remained a Virgin? If anything John saw a vision of a woman raised to Heaven with acrown of twelve stars on her head. Who was she?

  17. I don’t think God is unfair and selfish to the extent of using somebody’s wife for salvation of the whole world and depriving the husband from having marital sexual relation to have his own family. This is unjust.
    The brothers of Jesus mentioned in the bible are the children of Mary and Joseph .
    let’s take what is written in the holy book as such without adds and subtracts .

  18. During the times of joseph and mary,children were consindered as very much of a blessing. Why would Joseph and mary not be blessed with children?
    “My mother and brothers are those who follow my word”….so does this mean that the mother here was a aunt to Jesus and not mary.
    Joseph once thought of leaving mary secretely after he found out that she was expectant of a pregnancy that he wasn’t responsible…this is to say that he knew and expected to have mary pregnant but after they married.

  19. For all those who insist on probing the virginity of the Mother Of GOD, please do understand how much you wound Jesus by such demeaning comments. The non Catholics see it their right to comment on the virginity of again i would stress the Mother of God. Would you in your personal lives, would want to talk about your mothers virginity?
    It just clearly shows that what we Catholics would love to see the mother of Jesus as holy and pure, would have to necessarily be made to look ugly, just as the world looks. The world cannot perceive anything to be Holy as intended by God. Remember that the Bible also says, some vessels are made for honorable use while some vessels for ordinary use. So Mary is that honorable vessel that bore Jesus and raised Him. Jesus who is God himself, needed a mother, an extraordinary woman, a woman full of the grace of God, a woman who was selfless, willing to risk everything in her and around her.
    There are preachers and evangelists, including St. Paul who remained celebate to take the Gospel. So, why must you in your worldly minds doubt that St. Joseph who had an angel visit him in his dream not once but twice, be not convinced to see Mary though his wife, as vessel of honour who needed to be protected and untouched.
    My beloved protestant brothers and sisters ( i called u not cousins nor as friends, but brothers/sisters….u by no means are related by blood to me, but by us being the heirs to the kingdom of God), when Jesus asked who is my mother? He did not detach himself from His mother, but rather hailed her before the crowd, as the ONE who actually did the will of the Father.
    Thank you Jesus for giving your mother as our mother, at the cross saying, ‘behold your mother’.

  20. its not sayin Mary had kids b4 Jesus. I beleive she was a virgin, but its obvieuse she had kids after. Because there not mentioned till Jesus is a man. Just sayin.

    • POINT A : The BIBLE can not Contradict it self nor miss lead Christians
      POINT B : In ancient Aramaic there was no word for Cousins
      The so called brothers of Jesus mentioned in this bible verse were James and Joses. “Matthew 13:54-56”
      “54 When He had come to His own country, He taught them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished and said, “Where did this Man get this wisdom and these mighty works? 55 Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses,[a] Simon, and Judas? 56 And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this Man get all these things?””
      But its the same Bible that told us James and Joses were the children of another Mary “Matthew 27:56”
      “55 And many women who followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering to Him, were there looking on from afar, 56 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses,[a] and the mother of Zebedee’s sons(James and John).”
      Now how could you possibly call James and Joses the biological children of MARY(the mother of Jesus)?

  21. Mary was a virgin, so was st joseph! He had to be pure also! Furthermore, God the Father refers to our lady in the book of genesis as the New eve! Catholics do not honour our lady above God, but we do recognise that our lady is constantly interceding for us as her children, she accepted us at the foot of the cross! Also, many great staints have encouraged devotion to the blessed virgin throughout history, if we were wrong to honour her, I think they would have told us! Also, modern man is obsessive about sex, their minds are UNpure and they can’t understand why anyone would remain a virgin, it’s called sacrifice! In our lady’s case, she was beyond temptations because she is the immaculate conception! Also mentioned in the book of revelation, the women clothed with sun, who will crush the serpents head! Our lady is a powerful advocate for us all! Please do not dishonor her! Amen

  22. Definite Truth about Mary Sons & Daughters….
    Mat 13:53-56
    When Jesus had finished these parables, he moved on from there.
    Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. “Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?” they asked.
    “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?
    Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?”
    Mat 27:56
    Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee’s sons.
    Mar 6:2-3
    When the Sabbath came, he began to teach in the synagogue, and many who heard him were amazed. “Where did this man get these things?” they asked. “What’s this wisdom that has been given him, that he even does miracles!
    Isn’t this the carpenter? Isn’t this Mary’s son and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas and Simon? Aren’t his sisters here with us?” And they took offense at him.
    Mar 15:40
    Some women were watching from a distance. Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salome.
    Mar 16:1
    When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus’ body.
    Luk 24:10
    It was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the others with them who told this to the apostles.
    Galatians 1:19
    I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord’s brother.

    • This argument is on the basis the new Testament was written in Aramaic however much research has been done and it is proven the be written in Greek. From a simple reading of the bible you an see Jesus and his disciples knew Greek which was universally accepted as English is today. This may mean that we posses the original scripts/letter that the disciples of Jesus wrote!! This is mind blowing, super interesting. Check out this link for the research, hope you are enlightened my brothers, PEACE. 🙂

      • John, why are you so eager to show that Mary was just any other woman? Each of the so called borthers, in greek, aramaic, latin, hebrew languages does not matter, have mothers and fathers with different names than Mary and Joseph, the Gospels say so…. read the Gospel, it is “mind blowing, super interesting”…so how do you ever come up with the “protestants” and anti-Christ idea that Mary had other sons and daughters because of the Gospel passages you are mentioning, really beats me….grow up and read the Gospels properly, you don’t have to be a genius to do that, before you use them for blasfemy. May God forgive you for this, John.

        • Dear Silvano, even if Mary were in heaven praying for people my statement of calling her a normal human cannot be a blasphemous act because she is not God. But what implication does the act of praying to her do for you? Perhaps you should take time to wonder: if she isn’t in heaven then wouldn’t praying to her to pray to the lord for you be idolatry? What if this is true, would you see heaven? What wrong have i done you? Why do I need to grow up? Isn’t it really anti-Christ to put such importance on a person that is not Christ? How did the bible tell you to be saved? Does being saved have anything to do with Mary? If it does, why isn’t it stated that Mary can get you closer to God because of her high rank. There are many assumptions to the Mary of the catholic church. My reason for commenting is out of love for anyone watching it because I truly believe you are in danger and I hope, sincerely that I am not right because there are 1 billion Catholics half of all Christians and I wish to see you all in heaven. Love Jesus Christ our savior (Follow what he says to do in the bible) and even if you do not pray to Mary as a link between you and Jesus, you will still go to heaven. Please do not risk your salvation, and seek truth with all your heart. Peace :).

          • Dear John,
            It is for the love of God and for my neighbour, that I reply to you, as I see some signs of honesty in your reply. To believe or not to believe if it is right to pray to the Virgin Mary goes far more beyond that simple question. It is to believe in the Body of Christ, and to understand its implications in our lives. I do not have to quote any verse of the Bible to you, as you are very well aware of the need to pray for each others, don’t you? I pray for you and you pray for me, at least when I ask you to do so, and you do it. You bend your knees (or not) and you ask Jesus, our Lord and Saviour, to pray for the poor Silvano, who is in need. You would do that in a bit, and so would I. So, there we have a human, me, asking another human, you, to pray God for help. This is not idolatry, you will agree with me, as we MUST pray for each other, for the members of His Body do that with each other. Now, you and I will remain members of His body as long as we are in His grace. If you read Chapter 15 of the Gospel of Saint John, you will see that Jesus says that we could also lose that status and be cut off from Him. Of course, you will agree with me, the only thing that will cut us off from the Body of Christ is mortal sin, being called mortal explains exactly that: that once we are out of the Body of Christ we are dead souls, because only in Him there is life. Jesus said so.
            Our souls are members of the Body of Christ, not our bodies, mind you. Now comes the crucial point, in which many “non-denominational Christians” and some protestants have great difficulty in digesting the truth and go astray: the death of our body, not of the soul, is not a sin at all, and therefore the soul of a dying person will remain “living member” of the Body of Christ after the body is dead, if at that moment he or she was a member of the Body of Christ . Saint Paul reminds us that, God is a God of the living, and of course he meant of living souls, as he warn us to be afraid, not of those who kill our bodies, but of those who kill our souls (through sin). Get the idea? The members of the Body of Christ honor each other (veneration), take care of each other (pray), communicate with each other (communion of saints), yes, because every member of the Body of Christ is holy, because He is holy. So, the Virgin Mary and millions of other people are still “alive and kicking” in the Body of Christ as they are still members of His Body. Jesus said also that in the mansion of His Father there are many rooms (Chapter 14 of the the Gospel of Saint John) and many times spoke about of the human desire to be first, to have the first place, and Jesus said that who wants to be first, will be last, and who is last will be first. Jesus loves humility in the humans, and makes them “first”. That means that in His mansion there are “first places” and not so “first places”. His Mother, the most humble human chosen by God the Almighty Father to bring us His beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, has the first place, without any doubts. This has been recognized by the early fathers of the church as far back as in the 100 years after Christ. We have prayers to the Virgin Mary to that fact, dated between 100 a.c. and 200 a.c. So, it is not a medieval or renaissance devotion or cult, but it goes back right at the beginning of the Church. Because it is the truth, dear John.
            I pray to the Virgin Mary, just as well as I ask you to pray for me. It is called “intercession prayer” and all the graces and favours are given to us by God the father, because Jesus is asking Him to help us. And why is Jesus interceding for me? Because I asked His Mother Mary to give Jesus my plea. And can Jesus refuse to listen to His Mother, of course He cannot , because He Himself said so (again read Chapter 15 of the Gospel of Saint John).
            Can I ask Jesus directly? Of course. As a matter of fact, I don’t really need Jesus to do that for me either, I can ask God the father directly . In deed I could. But would He listen to me? That is the question. Chapter 15 of the gospel of Saint John gives me the answer to that question, dear John. Verse 7 says that Jesus is asking us to fulfill two conditions to this effect: “If you are in me AND, my words remain in you (hence I am in you, according to the meanings of the previous verses, and that is what I mean by understanding the truth and the implications of being a Member of the Body of Christ) ask whatever you want, and it will be done to you.”. Now you and I are poor sinners, we know, that we sin 70 times 7 a day, would I have a good chance to be listen by Jesus or by God the Father? I am not so sure, because of the sins I commit, and many times I find myself out of the Body of Christ all together, hence I do not fulfill those two conditions. So, what do I do? I know who is a member of the Body of Christ FOR SURE. His Mother Mary and all the other Saints. Who will be the best intercessor for me, a poor sinner, who cannot even comply with those two basic conditions set by Jesus? The very best is of course the Virgin Mary, His Mother, a living Member of the Body of Christ. That is why, dear John, we catholics, stick to our guns and believe in this and pray to the Virgin Mary left, right and centre. it is not idolatry, since none of us even think that the Virgin Mary is god or a goddess, but simply THE loving mother of God AND a living member of the Body of Christ. To close off, let me tell you a little true story that happened in France back in 1234 in Carcasonne, France. Saint Dominic, a monk and the founder of the order of the Dominicans, was doing an exorcism in the town’s main square, in front of thousands of people, asking the intercession of the Virgin Mary to get read of the devil from that poor Frenchman. The devil came out alright, but before he left altogether, he screamed so loud that everyone in town could hear him, that a pitiful and pleading look of the Virgin Mary to His Son has more convincing powers towards God, that all the prayers of all the other Saints put together. And that being said by the devil with a most angry voice before he disappeared.
            May the Love of god be with you, dear John, and may the Virgin Mary smile at you and warm your heart, as the only thing she wants from us, is to love her Son, our beloved Jesus Christ, that is her constant message thoughout the centuries.

        • Mary was a human being like any other woman of that time. She served God and produced Jesus through the Holy Spirit. The Virginity label applies to bearing Jesus. The way i see it, if she had Jesus to Joseph, Jesus would have inherited Adam and Eve’s sin and we all know that God is sinless. She served the purpose of our Lord’s command. What happened after that is irrelevant, she was a human being with human needs and so was Joseph.

  23. were where does u refere to as jesus brother wen his parents went looking for him in Jerusalem. why weren’t them mentioned

  24. mary is like an exception of the rules.because she gave Birth to Jesus Christ with no sin.he is perfect,if mary has a sin by nature so Jesus Christ will become imperfect!EZEKIEL 44:2..and the Lord said to me,This gate will stay closed and will never be human being is allowed to use it,because I,the Lord God of Israel,have entered through it.It is to remain close..mary has no brother and sister.the brother is cousin.there is no term cousin that’s why they called brother.just have a research not try to understand things or investigate matters that beyond your power to know.

  25. Thats right king, try saying the Lord’s prayer “Our Father”.
    The heavenly father son and holy spirit honoured mother Mary.
    So its my believe to do the same, to honoure her
    Its all to do with your believe in yrself nd not to find out more beon yr kno
    Ask God’s Holy Spirit to show you more you cannot find out more without it

  26. Thats right king, try saying the Lord’s prayer “Our Father”.
    The heavenly father son and holy spirit honoured mother Mary.
    So its my believe to do the same, to honoure her
    Its all to do with your believe in yrself nd not to find out more beon yr kno
    Ask God’s Holy Spirit to show you more you cannot find out more without it

  27. Let’s concentrate on keeping God’s commandments, being kind and leaving a holy life, Hopefully when we get to Heaven we ask this question to The Virgin Mary. Knowing that the Blessed Virgin Mary had other Kids apart from Jesus is not going to lead me or any one to Heaven.

  28. Will,words after words. But I strongly believe that God will never allow Satan to touch his word . from prophecy of Enoch to prophecy of John will be never be change.

  29. Mary is the Mother of God, the Mediatrix of all graces, Co-redemptor of our salvation! If we believe that Jesus came on earth, incarnated through Mary, that is all that matters! Let us concentrate on believing God strongly and obeying his commandments. These are our passports to Heaven…To Jesus through Mary…..

  30. Another consideration is that…. Mary’s “yes” to the angel’s proposal from God caused her to become the Spouse of the Holy Spirit and thus Jesus was conceived. To have sexual relations with Joseph would have actually been adultery. Joseph, a man who sought God’s will in his life, was given the task of protector, provider and foster father for Jesus. And Jesus would not have left Mary in the Apostle John’s care if Mary had other children or even step-children to care for her.

  31. If Mary had other children, why St. John took care of Mary in stead of her children or step children. Why non Catholics cant accept the fact that Virgin Mary is pure. It is because you hate the Catholic Church or you want to destroy his Church? How can you love Jesus if yyou dont love his mother? If you can not understand what it says in the Bible about, Blessed among women, full of grace and all generations will call me Blessed. If its that nothing to you what is meant then you dont have the Holy Spirit of God. Thats a mystery of Faith.

  32. Luke 1:46-47 (Revised Standard Version)
    46 And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, 47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
    Why would one immaculately conceived need a Savior?

  33. Yes i agree with you Marjie, if Mary had other Children, they will show up during crucifixion of Jesus and they will be the one to take their mother Mary home. and Jesus should not hand Mary over to his disciple to take care of her, if he really have brothers and sisters. common sense!.

  34. Thank you very much Anthony, now i have verses to answer every question on Mary, i was looking for that. God bless you. as for Maria Gloria please read the whole of mt 1:18-25 and mt 2:1, there you can understand the birth of Jesus. to me Mary is especial lady, the mother of the Lord. not just any one can become the Lord’s mother. she deserve all the respect and honer.

  35. Mary is a blessed person and she has received her reward in heaven. All the rest about her is speculations, it is an offence to God and Christ to put her level with our saviour. She cannot save, she cannot grant grace, she is not our advocate. The catholic Church has made her a Goddess. I am sure that if she knows what the Catholic Church teaches in her name she will be weeping tears of blood. The term immaculate conception, is a joke: for even Jesus who was conceived by the Holy Spirit was subjected to temptations, So why was Mary more special than Jesus? You should all know that when Jesus was made flesh He was also made sin: for the flesh and sin are one and the same. Immaculate conception indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • SICK TALK. God forgive you.
      Have you not read ‘.. He was like onto as in everything but sin”? How dare do you make Christ a sinner, a slave of the devil. Go and seeks forgiveness.

  36. Why are some had to dispute with what the scriptures say? When the Bible says Mother Mary a perpetual virgin then leave it at that. It’s your word against God’s word. After all , it’s about faith. Don’t fall short of who and what you believe. Debating against the Scripture is like debating against God. Would you still dare?

  37. Catholics have the highest reverence for Mother Mary because she had a special role, handpicked by God, to conceive the Living Word of God. Mother Mary, like us, is a servant of God too. She fills the vacant seat with all humility which Lucifer vacated who exalted himself. Mother Mary is the new Eve in the New Testament, born without sin therefore perfect in carrying baby Jesus in her womb. It was the Angel who proclaimed ” Hail Mary full of Grace…”

  38. JESUS established one church,the Catholic Church is not a denomation like the 38000 protestant interpretations,our faith still remains the truth because the Holy Spirit guides our Church. We know the HOly Mass is the true way to worship CHRIST . People get over it. Mary is the mother of us all.she is FULL Of GRACE,She is GODS Masterpeace. I honor her as my mother and she only guides people to her son. I’ve read all of the comrnents. We’re in our bible does it say to be saved just say the sinners prayer. JESUS said be the name of the FATHER,SON!HOLY SPIRIT, WE believe that JESUS is truly BODY!BLOOD,SOULand DEVENITY,when we receive him in HOLY COMMUNION. 38000 Protestant say it only A remberance of him. May God show you all the herices you believe .

  39. There are many other things the catholic church does besides praying to Mary. If Mary is not in heaven doing what the catholic church says she is, ylall catholics will all not be saved because you have not reached to Jesus and your block is the idol Mary. Jesus says come to him…but he doesn’t mention through Mary. The protestant path is much safer the heaven as it is written the thing of this world are evil. The catholic church is run by people in high places, the world.

  40. If you believe thatt Blessed Virgin Mary is the Mother of our Lord Jesus, received His Flesh andBlood to become One with Him. Then it is right now to be called that we Catholics are sons & daughters of Mary and Jesus is our brother and we are God s children.

  41. Mary was a virgin when the angel spoke to her, but it does not follow that she had to be afterwards! And where does it say in the Bible that she worked in the Temple?
    Jesus’ brothers were Mary’s children, why else were they with Mary when they went to see Jesus?
    the answer to why Jesus entrusted Mary to John and not James is that for one thing John was there; and the other was that James, at this moment in time, did not believe in Jesus.
    Mary and Joseph had a fulfilled married life, read Matthew 1:18-25 and particularly verse 25, ‘He did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a Son. And he gave Him the name Jesus.’
    You see after Jesus was born, they consummated the marriage! Nuff Said.

  42. This argument is on the basis the new Testament was written in Aramaic however much research has been done and it is proven to be written originally in Greek. From a simple reading of the bible you an see Jesus and his disciples knew Greek which was universally accepted as English is today. This may mean that we posses the original scripts/letter that the disciples of Jesus wrote!! This is mind blowing and super interesting. Check out this link for the research, hope you are enlightened my brothers, PEACE. 🙂

  43. This argument is on the basis the new Testament was written in Aramaic however much research has been done and it is proven the be written in Greek. From a simple reading of the bible you an see Jesus and his disciples knew Greek which was universally accepted as English is today. This may mean that we posses the original scripts/letter that the disciples of Jesus wrote!! This is mind blowing, super interesting. Check out this link for the research, hope you are enlightened my brothers, PEACE. 🙂

  44. haha…. interesting topic. to digress a little let’s look at d following scriptures Matt 27:44 “Even the thieves who were crucified with him insulted him…..”
    and Luke 23:39 “One of the thieves crucified blasphemed him saying: If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.”
    Now this is a big problem for our separated brothers…. on the other hand, it is no problem for the Catholic Church. For our separated brothers which would you rather believe, Matthew or Luke? Since both of them were inspired by the Holy Spirit. Now the one big difference between the Catholic Church and her separated Evangelical Fundamentalist is this, the Evangelical Fundamentalists holds that the bible and only the bible should be the sole rule of faith for the christian. By this position the sole rule of faith becomes what an individual can interpret personally from what he or she reads in the bible. By this doctrine he or she denies that there is any other source of religious authority or divine revelation to humanity. On the other hand, the Catholic Church holds that the rule of faith for the believer is the teaching of the Church and the Church in turn takes her teaching from divine revelation which is both the written word called Sacred Scriptures and the unwritten word known as Tradition. Certainly these two views are opposed to each other….. it is therefore necessary for the believer who sincerely wants to follow Christ ask which is the right way. Back to my original point, if the bible, the inspired word of God clearly contradicts itself in these two verses I cited then clearly the Evangelical Fundamentalist will have a problem. In other words, I would not base my Faith on a ground that I can’t trust fully. But Christ knowing full well what over reliance on the Scripture will cause said ” You study the Scriptures because you think that in them you will find eternal life. Yet these Scriptures speak about me and the teachings I give you so that you may have life you reject.” John 5:39-40. In other to preserve these teachings he founded a Church and promised that the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. He even went further and said whatever you bound on earth is bound in heaven… and so on, and whoever sins you forgive is forgiven…. further more he said (to his church) I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven.” Now let us note that this promise was not given to people who read the bible but rather to that church he commissioned to preach his gospel. The One million dollar question that begs to be asked is where is this church? For those who have found this Church…. how happy are they.

    • If the four Gospel accounts synced perfectly, I would (and you should) be more worried. Perfectly synced stories give evidence to an attempt to doctor and moderate the truth. So let us look at context. What is going on? A crucifixion. Men dying, people saying stuff, soldiers gambling, disciples at various positions with St. John the Divine closest to the cross with Mary and other women. At various distances, different people will hear different things.
      Also, the crucifixion took several hours, and the thieves died hours after Jesus did. It is possible that Thief 2 hearing some of the utterances of Jesus, could shift from a position of mockery to one of worship.
      I can volunteer no further information. The church has NO RIGHT/AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER to tamper with interpretations of the Word of God as delivered to us. How can mere mortals hope to improve upon the Instruction of the Almighty? But that is what they have done and their judgement is sure unless the creature acknowledges the Infinite Wisdom of the Creator and admits that he/she knows nothing; obediently asking for enlightenment and a sincere knowledge of the mind of Christ by His abiding Holy Spirit.

  45. On the topic, concerning the relations between Joseph and Mary, i’d like to see y’all explain Matthew 1:25, especially the word UNTIL. I believe they imply a delay of intimate relations until the birth of our Lord and the commencement thereof afterward.

  46. After reading all the posts incl. the link to ” Protoevangelium of James] as prove of the perpetual and inviolate virginity of Mary before, in, and after the birth of Christ” (Patrology, 1:120–1).’
    – my question to those who believe in the ‘immaculate conception’ of Mary, and that Mary was ever virgin. My question is ” how far up the ancestral line of Mary does this requirement needs to go? So Mary’s mother & grandmother etc also immaculately conceived to be good enuf to bear Mary ‘born without sin’? ”
    If Mary was born without sin, then Christ died in vain on the cross becos there seems to be another way to be saved. And contradicts what Jesus said in John 14: 6 ‘ I am the way & the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me’.
    Also contradicts Rom 3:23 ‘ that ALL have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God ‘ v 24 ‘ and are justified freely by his grace thro the redemption that came by Chrust Jesus v25 God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement thro faith in his blood ‘.
    Sorry guys, but seriously, Mary was not given much mention in the bible, both OT & Gospels or in the epistles.

    • Hey Pat. Spot on. I gave a reply to Bill accordingly. To your question about Mary’s parents and so on, no. They conceived Mary in the normal way. It was God who did not permit Mary to be conceived with the original sin. God chose her. And she had to be immaculate from conception. How do we know that God did not permit the original sin to contaminate her? Mary tells us that herself, in the “Magnificat” or the Canticle of Mary ( Gospel of Saint Luke, Chapter one, verses 46 and 47 and 49). There Mary proclaims that God is her Saviour, and that God did great things for her. So, Mary was saved, as her original sin was taken care of at the moment just before her conception. Thus the death on the Cross of her Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, was valid also for her sin, which was deleted at her conception, and that is the great things that God did for her in verse 49. That is, of course, if you believe that it is God who send us our soul, and that it is God who knows us even before our conception, as the prophet Jeremiah in his chapter 1 verse 5 tells us: “”Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you;…” God does this and more, as you can see. We are always tempted to confine the ability of God to do whatever, according to our own very limited abilities, that is way we say often: How can that be possible….neeeeeehhh, never in a million year. But Mary thanks God for having saved her, even before conception. Wow…..
      Besides, Mary told us that herself, when she appeared to Bernadette in the Lourdes in France one hundred years ago, answering Bernadette’s question who she was, with : I am the immaculate conception. But that is another story, my friend.

      • If Mary was conceived without sin then what did Jesus inherit from Mary lol your believing in another gospel and Jesus warned us that Satan WILL appear an angel of light and deceive many. Your Fatima is Satan

        • It was Jesus that said, that if he was casting demons away in the name of Satan, than Satan’s kingdom would not last long, remember? How can you possibly say that Fatima is Satan, when Fatima (meaning the Virgin Mary appearing in Fatima) message was only to love Jesus and not commit sins against God? How can Satan send her messenger with the message to destroy him (Satan)? It does not make sense. The Virgin Mary is on the side of Good, to say the least, Casalene…. see the true light, when you see it, and do not follow the other light (the one that you are saying about Fatima) because that is exactly what Satan wants you to do: not to listen to the Virgin Mary who says only: please love my Son (Jesus) and do not offend Him. Amen
          Unless, of course, you never read or heard her messages to the three little ones, and I am not talking about the secrets.

        • Bible come from the Catholic Church, do you know that??not Catholic Church come from the Bible..we are the founder of Bible and we are the one who know how to used it

  47. In Jewish law for Mary to be married to Joseph they had to have sex otherwise she is living in sin
    Tho it didn’t happen until after Jesus birth Joseph n mary would have had to share the marriage bed otherwise they would b braking gods law on marriage
    So after that she was no longer a virgin
    Plus mary was only the vessel to which Jesus came into the world but god could have chosen any women to have him but mary was chosen
    After that she became just Joseph’s wife and mother to his children

  48. It’s a man made religion I don’t take anything they think serriously. Ever go to a mass as.they call it how many people are carrying a bible. The end

  49. Does it really matter if Mary had other children after Jesus?, the main point is that before giving birth to Jesus Christ she was a virgin, Mary herself was conceived without sin (The Immaculate Conception). And naturally her being a married woman (betrothed to Joseph) you would expect her to at a later stage have a relationship with her husband.

  50. I very well agree with this explanations. But I really want to know one thing. Why don’t we Catholics call God Jehova?

  51. She had other children. Catholic Mary is the same Mary in the Koran. Catholic Mary doesn’t match biblical mary. Mary was a sinner, Catholic Mary was perfect like Jesus. Biblical Mary never made the gospel about her but catholic Mary is above Jesus. Jesus left His earthly mother when He went to prepare for His bride. Catholic Mary lingers around the groom and has placed herself on the throne.

  52. MARY HAD OTHER CHILDREN…? Or did she?

    MATTHEW 13:55-56, and MARK 6:3, both say, “Is not this the carpenter, the Son of Mary, the brother of JAMES, and JO’SES (JOSEPH), and of JUDE and SIMON? And are not His sisters here with us?” (Note! Only the ‘carpenter’ is called ‘THE Son of Mary’, not ‘A Son of Mary’) Some people refer to these verses as ‘proof’, that Mary had other children. See also: Mt 12:46, Mk 3:31, Lk 8:19, Jn 7:5.

    Let us examine this more closely, using your bible…
    The word: ‘Brethren’…appears over 530 times in the Bible.

    ‘Brother’….appears over 350 times.

    ‘Brothers’…appears only once, in Num 36:11.

    ‘Sister’…..appears over 100 times.

    ‘Sisters’….appears over 15 times.

    BRETHREN: This is a plural word for ‘brother’ as shown in dictionaries.

    BROTHER: The Hebrew word ‘ACH’, is ordinarily translated ‘brother’. Since Hebrew, and Aramaic in which the Gospel of Matthew was written, had fewer words than our English, the Jews at that time, used it in a broader sense to express kinship. The Hebrew terms for different levels and degrees of relationship did not exist. ‘Brother’ meant the sons of the same father, and all the male members of the same clan or tribe. In Greek, in which the Gospel of Mark was written, the word “brother” is “adelphos” (adelphos), meaning a blood brother, or belonging to the same people, or a countryman, or a fellow believer. Even today, the word is used in a larger meaning, so that friends, allies, fellow believers, and fellow citizens can be included in the same brotherhood. It was no different in the time of Christ. Four dictionaries I have checked list three or four classes of meanings of the word ‘brother’. The first class concerns sons of the same parents. The other two or three classes say, kinsman, fellow man, a close friend, a pal, a member of a religious order, a fellow member of a Christian Church, etc. How many times have you seen T.V. Evangelists address their audiences as ‘Our brothers and sisters’? Marian detractors accept the last three meanings to suit themselves, but when it comes to Mary, the mother of GOD, they always refer to the first meaning. Is this fair to her? How do you explain this?

    In the words of Jesus Christ Himself, look at John 20:17, where He said to Mary Magdalen, “Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father, but go to My ‘BRETHREN’ (‘BROTHERS’ in some Bibles) and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and to your Father, to My GOD and your GOD.'”

    Now in the very next verse, to whom did she go?
    John 20:18, “Mary Magdalene came, and announced to the “DISCIPLES”, “I have seen the Lord, and these things He said to me.”
    When Jesus said “BRETHREN”, He meant His “DISCIPLES”, and not blood brothers.

    See Matt 28:10, Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid; go, take word to My BRETHREN that they are to set out for Galilee; there they shall see Me.”

    Now who did go to Galilee to meet Jesus?
    Matt 28:16, “But the eleven DISCIPLES went into Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had directed them to go.”
    Yet again, when Jesus said “BRETHREN”, He meant His “DISCIPLES”, and not blood brothers.

    Matt 23:8, Jesus said, “…and you are all brothers.”
    Are we all blood brothers?

    Lk 22:31-32, “Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail; and when you have turned again, strengthen your brethren.”
    Jesus spoke to Simon Peter here and the word “brethren” is plural. Did Jesus mean Peter’s blood brothers or the other Apostles?

    Another example of the words of Jesus Christ…
    Jesus tells us who his “Brothers” and “Sisters” are in Matt 12:50, and Mk 3:34-35, “For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven, HE IS MY BROTHER AND SISTER AND MOTHER.”
    So for those who insist that the word “brother” or “sister” means blood siblings only, or from the same womb, they will have to adjust their thinking to conform to what was said here. If not, then everyone in the whole world will have to be seen as a blood brother or sister of Jesus Christ.

    Here is yet another important verse regarding “the brothers”:
    Jn 7:5, “Even his brothers didn’t believe in him.”
    Now if those were blood brothers of Jesus as many non-Catholics claim they were, then they must have lived with Him for much of His first 30 years on earth. Those who claim He had brothers, know full well that His mother and foster father knew who He was, and of course believed in Him. Would they then also have us believe that His siblings did not know who He was and did not believe in Him?

    Here is one from the Old Testament that I would like someone to explain who believes that Mary had ‘other children’ simply because the Bible uses the word ‘brethren’ in several verses.
    1Chronicles 23:22: King James Bible…
    “And Eleazar died, and had no sons, but daughters: and their brethren the sons of Kish took them.”
    Please explain how the daughters of Eleazar were taken by their blood brothers when Eleazar had no sons?

    See also: Num 8:26, 1Sam 30:23, 2Sam 1:26, 1King 9:13, 2Chron 29:34, Acts 2:37, Acts 3:22, Acts 7:23.

    For Example…
    If you will read Gen 29:15, “And Laban said to Jacob, because thou art my brother…” At first you would think Jacob and Laban are blood brothers. Now compare Gen 29:5, “..know ye Laban, the son of Nahor…” Compare Gen 25:21-26, and you will see Jacob was the son of Isaac and Rebekah. Laban was the son of Nahor. They were not blood brothers but fellow citizens. Christ tells the Multitude and His disciples in Mt 23:1-8, “AND ALL YE ARE BRETHREN.” Did He mean they were all blood brothers? Of course not.

    In 1Cor 15:6, Jesus appeared to five hundred ‘brothers’ at one time. Could all of these be blood brothers? Hardly. Then there is Peter speaking before one hundred and twenty brothers in Acts 1:15-16. 1Chron 26:30 tells us that Hashabiah had seventeen hundred ‘brothers’. How did his mother ever accomplish that feat?
    Paul speaks of one ‘called a brother’, in 1Cor 5:11 and 1Cor 8:11-13. Paul asks ‘BRETHREN, pray for us. Greet all the BRETHREN with a holy kiss’, in 1Thes 5:25-26.
    The Bible has many more similar verses. No one has a problem with these verses. Why then do they have a problem when ‘Mary’ is introduced into the verse?

    Now we have four ‘brothers’, JAMES, JO’SES, SIMON, and JUDE to account for as written in Mk 6:3…

    Mk 15:40, “There were also women looking on afar off: among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of JAMES the less and of JO’SES, and Salome.” These people were at the crucifixion.

    Jn 19:25, “Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother (Mary) and His mothers sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.”
    Note that if in this verse the word “sister” meant blood sister, that she is not named here. The context and placement of the commas preclude that there were two girls in the same family, both having the same name of Mary. Would not this cause much confusion in the family? By careful comparison to Mk 15:40 it is seen that Mary the Mother of Jesus is not mentioned, but Salome is. Also Salome is indirectly mentioned in Matt 27:56 as the mother of the sons of Zebedee. It can therefore be assumed that Salome is the unnamed sister of Mary in this verse.

    Mt 10:2-3, “…’JAMES’ the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddeus.” Alphaeus is an alternate translation of Cleophas (Clophas) and so he is the same person.

    Acts 1:13, “…JAMES, the son of Alphaeus, and SIMON Zelo’tes, and JUDE the brother of JAMES.”

    From these four passages, we see we have another ‘Mary’, who was the wife of Cleophas (Alphaeus), and the mother of three of Jesus’s ‘brethren’, JAMES (the less), and JO’SES, and JUDE. This clearly shows that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was not the mother of JAMES, JO’SES, and JUDE of Mk 6:3. To keep Mk 6:3 in harmony, since three are not children of Mary, the mother of Jesus, then SIMON is not either. SIMON is the Canaanite Mk 3:18, also called the ‘Zealot’ (Zelo’tes), Mt 10:4, Lk 6:15, Acts 1:13. Jude, who authored the Epistle of Jude, says he is the brother of James in Jude 1:1. Jude was also called ‘Thaddeus’ in Mt 10:3, and in Mk 3:18. This was to distinguish him from Judas Iscariot. Lk 6:16 further distinguishes the two by saying, “And Judas (Jude) the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor.”

    More on the topic of ‘Mary’s other children’, I have another point to make…

    Jn 19:26-27, “When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple standing by, whom He loved…” The disciple was John, the author of the Gospel of John. “Then He said to the disciple, BEHOLD THY MOTHER.”
    Was John a child of Mary and blood brother of Jesus?

    Read the following verses to see…

    Mk 1:19, “…He saw James, the son of Zebedee, and ‘JOHN’, his brother.”

    Mk 3:17, “And James the son of Zebedee, and ‘JOHN’ the brother of James.”

    In neither of these passages is it said that Jesus saw a blood brother or even recognized them as men that He knew.

    Mt 27:56, “Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, (the less) and Jo’ses (Joseph), and the mother of Zebedee’s children.”

    Mt 20:20, “Then the mother of the sons of Zebedee came to him with her sons…”

    Mk 15:40, “…among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the Less and of Joseph, and Salome (the mother of Zebedee’s children).”

    Lk 24:10, “It was Mary Magdalene…and Mary (‘the other Mary’) the mother of James (the less)…”

    A comparison of Mt 27:56, and Mk 15:40, clearly shows that Zebedee had a wife whose name was Salome. She is called the ‘mother of Zebedee’s children’ in Mt 27:56, and ‘Salome’ in Mk 15:40. They had two children, JOHN and JAMES, Mk 3:17. JOHN at the foot of the cross to whom Jesus gave His mother, was not a child of Mary, the mother of Jesus, but of Zebedee and Salome. If Jesus had blood brothers, why then did He not give His mother to them? Jewish law would have demanded it…


    —Zebedee——Mt 4:21,Mk 1:19, Mk 3:17—————-
    + >——begat——–James and John————————-

    —Salome————Mt 27:56, Mk 15:40——————–

    —Cleophas-(Alphaeus)–Mt 10:2-3, Jn 19:25, Acts 1:13——
    + >——begat——James (the less), Joseph (Joses), and Jude———

    —Mary—-the other Mary, Mt 27:56,61, 28:1, Jn 19:25——

    —THE HOLY SPIRIT——Lk 1:35-38———————-
    + >——begat——JESUS THE CHRIST——————–

    —Mary———————Lk 1:30-38———————–

    This ‘Genealogy’ shows who the real parents of the ‘brothers’ in Mark 6:3, and Matthew 13:55, are,
    and makes the word ‘brother’ a non-argument.
    “Christ . . . was the only Son of Mary, and the Virgin Mary bore no children besides Him . . . ‘brothers’ really means ‘cousins’ here, for Holy Writ and the Jews always call cousins brothers.”
    Martin Luther, (Sermons on John, chapters 1-4, 1537-39).

    Additional notes…
    Mt 1:25, “And knew her not till…”. The meaning of the word ’till’ or ‘until’, means an action did not occur up to a certain point. It does not imply the action did occur later.

    Gen 8:7, “He sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, ‘until’ the waters were dried up off the earth.”
    Did the raven stop flying after?

    Deut 34:6 , Moses died, “…and no one knows his grave ‘until’ this day.” Have we found Moses’ grave?

    2Sam 6:23, “…the daughter of Saul had no child ‘until’ the day of her death.” Did she have a child after she died?

    1Cor 15:25, “For He must reign ‘until’ He has put all His enemies under His feet.” Does He stop reigning after He has put His enemies under His feet? If you think so, then compare Luke 1:33, “and of His kingdom there shall be no end”.

    1 Macc 5:54, “…not one of them was slain ‘until’ they had returned in peace.” Were they slain afterward?

    Luke 1:80, John the Baptist “…was in the deserts ‘until’ the day of his manifestation to Israel.” Did he stay in the desert? (Matt 3:1; Mark 1:3-4; Luke 3:2-4)

    Rom 8:22, “For we know that all creation groans and travails in pain ‘until’ now.” Does it still groan?

    1 Tim 4:13, “‘Until’ I come, be diligent in reading, in exhortation and in teaching.” When Paul has come is there no more reading, no more exhorting, and no more teaching?

    1 Tim 6:14, “….that you keep the commandment without stain, blameless ‘until’ the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ” When Jesus comes back, do we still obey the commandment?

    Rev 2:25-26, “But that which you have hold fast ’til’ I come. And to him who overcomes, and who keeps My works ‘until’ the end, I will give authority over the nations.” Should we stop holding fast and stop keeping His works when He returns?

    Lk 1:34, “Then said Mary unto the Angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?” This shows Mary had no relations with a man before and was virgin.

    Lk 2:7, “And she brought forth her ‘firstborn’ Son and wrapped Him in swaddling clothes…” Firstborn, at the time of the writing of the Gospels, meant, ‘the child that opened the womb’. See Ex 13:2 and Num 3:12. Firstborn does not imply that Mary had other children, as an ONLY son, IS a ‘FIRSTBORN SON’. The author of this letter is one.






    Bible References: Gen 8:7, Gen 25:21-26, Gen 29:5,15, Ex 13:2, Num 3:12, Num 8:26, Deut 23:7, 1Sam 30:23, 2Sam 1:26,6:23, 1King 9:13, 2King 10:13-14, 1Chron 23:22, 2Chron 29:34, Mt 1:25, Mt 4:21, Mt 10:2-4, Mt 12:46, Mt *12:48-50, Mt 13:55-56, Mt 20:20, Mt 26:26, Mt 27:56,61, Mt 28:1, Mk 1:19, Mk 2:14, Mk 3:17-21,31-35, Mk 6:3, Mk 15:40,47, Lk 1:34, Lk 2:7 Lk 2:41-51, Lk 5:10, Lk 6:16, Lk 8:19, Lk 24:10, Jn 7:2-7, Jn 19:25-27, Jn 20:17-18, Acts 1:13-16, Rom 8:29, 1Cor 5:11, 1Cor 8:11-13, 1Cor 9:5, 1Cor 15:6, Gal 1:19, 1Thes 5:25-26, 1Pet 5:12, Jude 1:1

  53. My understanding of the Holy Family is that Joseph and Mary had no relations until Jesus was born. St.Joseph and Blessed Mary married and had Joseph, Jude, James. St. Joseph then died and Blessed Mary married Jospeh’s brother and had two daughters to him named Mary and Simone. In biblical days, that was the custom for the husbands family to take care of the spouse.

  54. When the Angel of God told her “You will conceive and bear a Son”
    The Angel DID NOT SAY “you will bear MANY CHILDREN” did he ??

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