Where in the Bible does it say that Mary was assumed into heaven?


Where in the Bible does it say that Mary was assumed into heaven?

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Where does it say that Mary was assumed into heaven? 


If you mean where it is explicitly written in the Bible, there is none. But there are several scriptural passages in the Bible, the meditation on which illustrates the Assumption doctrine.

Pope Pius XII formally defined the dogma in his apostolic constitution Munificentissimus Deus on November 1, 1950: 

“The Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory.”

He pointed to the passages as follows:

  • Arise, O Lord, into thy resting place: thou and the ark, which thou hast sanctified. (Psalm 131:8)
  • [The Spouse of Canticles] that goeth up by the desert, as a pillar of smoke of aromatical spices, of myrrh and frankincense (Canticles 3:6)
  • The Woman clothed with the Sun (Revelation 12)
  • I will glorify the place of my feet. (Isaiah 61:13)
  • Who is this that cometh up from the desert, flowing with delights, leaning upon her beloved? (Canticles 8:5)

When you meditate on these passages in light of the Assumption, the dogma becomes clearer. 

Also, the dogma is stated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

“Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death.’ The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son’s Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians: ‘In giving birth you kept your virginity; in your Dormition you did not leave the world, O Mother of God, but were joined to the source of Life. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.’”

CCC 966

Where in the Bible does it say that Mary was assumed into heaven?

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  1. 4 years ago, I had a dream with the Blessed Mother and Jesus Christ in one dream. This is what happened in the dream. I was walking towards the veranda of our old house, one of my cousins was looking up in the sky. It was night time when I had a short glimpse of the sky. She was really happy and her face was beaming of joy. I asked, what are you seeing? And, she replied: Look at the sky! My attention turned away from my cousin and looked into the sky. At first, I saw multitude of stars glowing in different colors. Momentarily, a door or window in Heaven opened up like it was a big screen in front of me. Then, I saw a lot of people gathered, dressed in white, some of them holding leaves, singing, praising the Lord in Heaven. I moved my eyes from left to right, then a hand holding the “crown” in front of the crowd appeared. When, the crown was placed on the head, there was huge praising, singing in Heaven. I could not describe the joy in my heart. It felt like, I was there during the celebration. I remained my glance on the person being crowned and to my surprised it was the Blessed Mother. She was dressed in white and she wore a blue veil on her head. And, she was seated on elevated chair and everyone could see her. There was two persons at her back which I didn’t see their faces, the one that holds the crown and another person (I believe it was Jesus and God the Father).

    I moved my eyes on another window in the sky which is next to each other. I realized I was seeing things like my cousin.
    I told my cousin, now the Blessed Mother is also appearing to you in the vision and she said yes! At that moment, I could still hear the happiness from heaven. It seems there was no barrier that blocked the scenes.

    In another window in Heaven, I saw Jesus Christ in the river being baptized by another man. He was young and it seems like his skin is pale white and fresh. It’s not an ordinary skin. It’s hard to describe cause i didn’t see that skin in my whole life. After baptism, there was a sudden roar in Heaven and then, celebration again. It was a short scene.

    Now, every time there was a dialog or discussion about the Blessed Mother. My dream was a proof that the Blessed Mother is in Heaven and she gained the crown of Heaven and Earth.

    Note: The Blessed Mother appeared in my dream more than 5 times in the course of 4 years. Jesus Christ appeared on my dream more than 30 times from 2012-2016. I have many dream stories which is sealed in my memory. Thank you!

  2. yes, CAtholic Church was brought from Heaven by the LORD himself, so who are we to question and denying that!! He brought his church to build on this earth by himself, who else but the Lord himself… unlike the other churches built by men…. that is why the confusion among these people who denying the very core of the catholic faith.. the universal church

  3. The Assumption of Mary is tied to the Dormition story of the Blessed Virgin, an apocryphal book which tells of the passing of Mary in the presence of 11 of the apostles (Thomas was not present). When Thomas arrived, he was upset that he had not been given the opportunity to say goodbye, so the coffin was opened, and all that was present was clothing. Remember the Church had a lot of books they did not include in the New Testament for various reasons. Some are pious stories and others sacred myth – but remember that all myths are rooted in some truth no matter how exaggerated. We get the names of Mary’s parents from one of those books.
    The dogma of the Assumption is basically a belief that the Blessed Virgin Mary, although she was a human in all ways and not divine, experienced early resurrection through the love of her Son Jesus. This is not hard to believe, and to those who say it’s not in scripture so we should not believe, remember the words to St Thomas – “Blessed are they who have not seen but have believed.” Why should we not believe that our Lord Jesus loved his mother with such intensity as to bring her home as she was obedient to God from the beginning with her fiat, reversing the the damage done by Eve. Pope Pius XII simply solidified the truths of Mary’s passing away and transference to heaven by God as a dogma of belief. The Church has that authority given them by Christ himself. If anything is wrong, Christ will fix it.
    If you want to read the Dormition Story in three different translations, go to the New Advent Site:
    There are some other well written explanations by Catholic – and oh yeah – Orthodox apologists as well. While Orthodoxy disagrees with Pope Pius XII’s decision to declare the Assumption as a dogma outside of an ecumenical council, they still believe firmly in the passing away of Mary and the transference of her earthly body to heaven, which Catholics call The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
    For those who don’t believe because it’s not contained in the 26 books of the New Testament, thanks for personally putting God in a box and deciding what miracles he can perform. Don’t worry about these people – their minds are trained to be skeptical and not believe in anything not contained in the bible, which is too bad since God performs miracles in our lives, great and small every day. Remember the final words in the Gospel of John 21: 24-25
    “It is this disciple who testifies to these things and has written them, and we know that his testimony is true. There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written.”

  4. Jeremy, Mary cannot be the same with those people you mentioned – Peter, Moses, Abraham, etc because Jesus flesh and blood were not taken from them but from Mary. That is the reason why, Mary was sinless because her son, Jesus cannot offer a sacrificial blood for your salvation that is stained with sin! Otherwise what a waste of time for the Father to do all this when after all the sacrificial lamb, who is Jesus is stained with sin? Read the verse below that tells what happen if one is not under the law but under GRACE…
    Romans 6:14 says, for sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under the law but under grace. Meaning to say, that if a person is under GRACE, sin cannot function/operate in that person. So if this is the case – THAT SIN WILL HAVE NO DOMINION OVER A PERSON WHO IS UNDER GRACE – how much more with Mary who was told by the archangel Gabriel not only under GRACE but FULL OF GRACE?
    Another thing: Job 14:4 also says “No one can bring what is pure from the impure” So if Mary was impure then Jesus who was pure should not have been brought to Mary.

  5. Mary had other children? So she neglected all her “other” children n kept following Jesus? When he was dying on the cross,where we’re his siblings that he had to hand his mother to John? I believe she was/is “ever virgin” May the Lord open our hearts,mind and understanding. Amen

  6. 1) Catholics do not worship the Pope. Only Pastors indoctrinate this deceit to their flock.
    2) We seek Mary to intercede in our prayers and lead us to Jesus.
    3) Imagine you and your mum visiting a friend and he invites you in but tells you to leave your mum outside. Will you go into his house and leave her outside?

  7. Is the pope God? He is just a human sinner like you and me. How can he be worshiped?
    The most of the catholic doctrine is just man-made and senseless. So many rituals just made out of nothing, no backup of scriptures.
    Just read the Bible yourselves and you will find so many contradictions with the catholic teachings and God’s word. You don’t have to be a prophet to understand his word. As long as you can read you will understand clearly, even unbelievers do. Don’t just believe what your leaders say. Everything you hear, you test it with God’s word and with your spirit to confirm the truthfulness of those teachings. Don’t be religious but have a real relationship with God who is the most loving, gracious and merciful and you will surely know the truth. I just want to encourage to find out the truth for yourselves because I care and love you with God’s love.
    Do you really not understand what is so clearly written in the Bible? Ex.:
    The first and second commandment:
    Exodus 20: 3-6
    3 “You shall have no other gods before me.
    4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
    Why do you have so many man-made gods made of wood and stone? You even worship mere humans as holy saints who are also just sinners like you and me.
    Matthew 22: 37-38
    37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
    These are just a few of thousands of contradictions. These are not even topics for debate. They are clearly understandable for everybody.
    I pray that the Lord our God may open your hearts to the truth and despise all the lies. May God bless you abundantly!

    1. Pope is not God.
      Catholic don’t worship Pope.
      Catholic don’t worship Saints.
      Your acusations are false.
      I am Catholic.
      The bible said that Jesus built His Church and gave Peter order to take care of His flocks. And continuing the order, the Church has list unbroken chains of successor of Peter, which is the papacy.
      I don’t worship Pope or Papacy. I just acknowledge and honor what Jesus has started in the beginning, and that some people carry out and continue the order to take care of His flock.
      And I can not acknowledge your understanding of your bible.
      And as for saints, James 5:16-18 (NET) So confess your sins to one another and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great effectiveness.
      Elijah was a human being like us, and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain and there was no rain on the land for three years and six months!
      Then he prayed again, and the sky gave rain and the land sprouted with a harvest.
      Saints are righteous people. And we asked them to pray for us.
      If you argue that we should ask God directly, well, you apparently don’t read these verses:
      1 Kings 17:17-24 (WEB) After these things, the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, became sick; and his sickness was so severe that there was no breath left in him.
      She said to Elijah, “What have I to do with you, you man of God? You have come to me to bring my sin to memory, and to kill my son!”
      He said to her, “Give me your son.” He took him out of her bosom, and carried him up into the room where he stayed, and laid him on his own bed.
      He cried to Yahweh, and said, “Yahweh my God, have you also brought evil on the widow with whom I am staying, by killing her son?”
      He stretched himself on the child three times, and cried to Yahweh, and said, “Yahweh my God, please let this child’s soul come into him again.”
      Yahweh listened to the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.
      Elijah took the child, and brought him down out of the room into the house, and delivered him to his mother; and Elijah said, “Behold, your son lives.”
      The woman said to Elijah, “Now I know that you are a man of God, and that Yahweh’s word in your mouth is truth.”
      God hear the righteous person’s prayer.
      May be you will argue that Elijah was still alive at the time. And bible never suggest we pray to dead saints.
      Well, you right, but still God gave grace through them. Wanna proof?
      2 Kings 13:21 (WEB) As they were burying a man, behold, they saw a band of raiders; and they threw the man into Elisha’s tomb. As soon as the man touched Elisha’s bones, he revived, and stood up on his feet.
      I learned Catholic teaching, not from gossips nor acusations.
      Coincidentally, Jesus also accused as blasphemy to God, didn’t He?
      So, I took your accusations towards the Church as fullfilment of Jesus words:
      John 15:20 (NET) Remember what I told you, ‘A slave is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they obeyed my word, they will obey yours too.

  8. Luke 11-27 and 28 shows that Mary is no more blessed than any of us believers, Jesus said it, and I believe that he well and truly outranks men in dresses 1900 years later!

  9. as sin entered in through the first man adam.the virgin mary was not tanted sort of speek by man,for the seed is of the man/god created everything bearing seed of its own kind, now jesus being the seed of the holy spirit remained without sin.though mary was born of sinfull flesh and still in need of a savoir.hope that helps a bit though theres much more depth to it. GOD bless and stay in his word

  10. If you believe that the Bible is the infallible and inspired Word of God, and you have actually read the Bible, in its entirety, you cannot believe either the article or the comments going back and forth (at least the ones I have read). There are pieces of truth here but mixed with a ton of lies and traditions of man. First, the answer to the question is as the article states – you will not find it in the Bible. Well, if it is not in the Bible, then we do not know – period. And the Pope, then or now, does not know either. The Pope would be wise to not add to or take away from the Bible. He is not infallible, He is just a man. If you believe otherwise, that is idolatry. I believe that Mary was blessed, no question. I mean she was the vessel that carried our Lord and Savior. She did not stay a virgin, after Jesus was born he did have siblings. Jesus, 100% man and 100% God. Mary was the mother of the “man”. No one is the mother of God. That’s like asking what came first, the chicken or the egg. I know it is hard to break from tradition and go against what “man” teaches as doctrine. That goes for the pope or any preacher/teacher that does not teach the truth of the Bible. But in the end, we are all personally responsible for knowing Jesus, knowing His Word – because that is the instruction manual He gave us for salvation. The Bible itself is miraculous, 66 books written over 1500+ years and yet it carries a unified message. I would appeal to everyone who reads to the end of this post, do not look to man for the answer. Know the Word yourself and then find a church that teaches the truth. If you read, and truly want to know God, He will lead you to where you need to be. It is not God’s will that any should perish. But you must follow HIS plan and ONLY HIS plan for salvation. You cannot get to heaven without Jesus. And Jesus had to shed blood to wash our sins away. Jesus told Nicodemus in John that unless a man be born of water and spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. And I beseech each and every one of you, do not worship Mary — Jesus is the only one you should worship. He is the only pathway to everlasting life. Repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus and He will give you the Holy Spirit and the enlightenment of the truth to battle against deception.

    1. Ms. Pringle, Michael is mentioned in Dan.10:21; 12:1 one of the chief princes of Persia, also, Jude 9, Michael the archangel disputed with the devil….then in Rev. 12:7 there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon…I hope that has been helpful to your question “Where in the Bible is Michael at”?

  11. As Catholic we honor Mary because God the Almighty Father honor her first by planting Jesus into her womb…..Amen!shininglight76@yahoo

  12. While I agree it is not directly written in the scriptures I would say that it is very much implicit and revealed in them. Just as Jesus himself was not directly revealed in the Old Testament, he had to explain to the disciples on the road to Emmaus all that pertained to him. If we actually spend time looking at all the scriptures that point to Mary as the Ark of the Covenant we can see clearly that she was taken to heaven. When? Well that’s a historical and debatable matter as to if she suffered death before her assumption or not…. but is she in Heaven? Revelation 11-12 is clear that she is. So we know she is there, body and soul.. which is what the assumption states.
    it is very much in the bible.

    1. If you are referring to Rev11:12 it is referring to a time still in the future when the two witnesses not Mary are ascended up to heaven. Read Rev11:1-12 which is self explanitory. pauls instruction says Prove all things which means don’t believe what they tell you if you can’t find and read it for yourselves.

      1. No, Revelation 11:1 clearly states that there was A Great Sign in heaven.
        The great sign doesn’t means about the future. The sign that people understand the meaning so clearly about Jesus and not just another child in the future.

      2. Okeey, can you prove these verses?
        Hebrews 7:1, 3 (NET) Now this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, met Abraham as he was returning from defeating the kings and blessed him.
        Without father, without mother, without genealogy, he has neither beginning of days nor end of life but is like the son of God, and he remains a priest for all time.
        You questions and doubt what is obvious about Mary, as it is described in the Revelations. Can I questions and doubt about Melchizedec too? Which OT verse or scripture is the base of Hebrew 7:1,3 above?
        Because I can’t find and read it myself.
        Should I doubt Jesus, because Old Testaments doesn’t state clearly about Him? How could you prove? Have you seen yourself the resurrection and the ascension?
        That is faith. Mary was assumpted to heaven. Don’t ask me any proof when you can’t prove yourself about your faith.
        Have you seen yourself sky open and the Son of God sit in the Right Side of God the Father?? Why do you believe when scriptures told you?

  13. and it’s not in the Bible because it’s a lie. Mary died and is awaiting the rapture for her spirit to join her new body in order to go to heaven. Btw, the immaculate conception is a lie as well. She was clearly a sinner as shown by Romans 3:23 and Luke 1:47

    1. Luke 1:47 “my spirit rejoices in God my savior.” –one, it’s part of a song, two even conceived without sin, Mary would still have to have relied upon the sacrificial act of Christ for her redemption.
      Romans 3:23 “…all have sinned and are deprived of the glory of God.”
      –This is so flimsy to use in this way, I’m not even sure how to come at it. “Hail, full of grace (the title she is addressed with by the angel), the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.” (Luke 1:28)
      The title “full of grace” comes from the Greek kecharitomene, which is used to describe a “perfection” or “abundance” of grace.
      doesn’t sound like Mary is deprived of the glory of God there…
      “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.” (Luke 1:30)…
      “The Mighty One has done great things for me, and holy is his name.” (Luke 1:49)
      And to use non-biblical sources, would you say that a small child, too young to know what sin is, is capable of sin? Or a person with a disability that prohibits their understanding? Mary is another exception to the teaching of Paul (and Mary clearly, completely, and totally supersedes Paul in every way).

  14. For those who cannot accept dogma like those referring to our Mother Mary, you are given free will to do so in the same manner we are given free will to accept. Let us realize that not everything could be possibly written in the bible! In fact some parts are based in what were discovered (old manuscripts). Some were not even allowed to be included in the Bible! Thus for those who wish to accept only bible verses then we respect your beliefs. If we choose otherwise then that’s our belief.

    1. Very true, because nowadays there are a lot of truths that were hidden before for its purpose, and now they were already revealed as the end is near.

  15. JESUS grave.is there……Abraham grave is there….JACOB grave is there…JoB grave is there….Lazarus grave is there…so also apostles peter and pauls grave are there but not of mother MARY.this shows she was taken into heaven.

    1. But Jesus is still God, yes? He is God just as much as The Father or The Holy Spirit are God, right? So… that makes Mary the Mother of God… correct?

  16. there is no truth for this claim…..the only truth for mary is that she is only the biological mother of jesus, there is no immaculate,ascession in heaven,or any divine attributes of mary as claim by roman catholics as truths.,why? because God has no mother,it is the divine immaculate conception of jesus is the truth here not mary and only jesus acsession to heaven is recorded in the scripture.

    1. According to Genesis 3.15 God put enmity between the Devil and the virgin Mary by doing this God saved her from committing any sin in her entire life therefore she is immaculate. The image of the Woman in Revelation 12 is the history of the people of God. It has a three fold meaning. The virgin Mary serves as a link between the people of Israel and the Church. “She (The Virgin Mary) gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne” Rev. 12.5 She is crowned by twelve stars which represent both the twelve patriarchs of Israel and the twelve Apostles. She is in heaven as Queen of the people of God. Scripture calls her “The Mother of my Lord” The virgin Mary is not the mother of God because she gave birth to God in eternity but because she gave birth to God the Son in time. She can be called the mother of God because she gave birth to the Word and Scripture tells us “the Word is God” therefore she is the mother of God. Things for some not easy to grasp God Bless you!

      1. Actually, Jose, God did NOT put enmity between the Devil and Mary. He put it between the Devil’s “seed” and Eve’s “seed”. To say that this prophecy relates past Jesus and encompasses Mary is quite a leap. Mary is no more inherently holy than the Ark of the Covenant is, no closer to God than we who have received salvation are — who’ve accepted Christ as Savior and bowed the knee to Him as Lord. Everything special about Mary is CONFERRED upon her by God’s presence — borrowed holiness. Minus God’s presence, Mary is just another woman in the same way that the ark minus God is just another hunk of gold and wood.

    2. To follow up on what Jose said, here’s just a few things to think about:
      Jesus is God, yes or no? We believe yes, He revealed as much to us. So, then, wouldn’t that make Mary the Mother of God?
      Following that, if Jesus is God, and God is perfect, without the Immaculate Conception then Mary would be ‘stained’ by the mark of sin that affects us all. Is it easier to believe that God would make His vessel pure or would he permit that which is not pure to contain the Incarnation?
      So if these first two are true, would it be hard to make the assumption (sorry, couldn’t resist) that if God “rewarded” His faithful servants like Moses and Elijah (seen in the Transfiguration), wouldn’t he also “reward” his most faithful handmaiden, the one person on whom all of salvation hinged, whose “yes” to the Lord completed that which was promised to Adam and Eve in the garden… that person would be consigned to wait for the Last Judgement?
      Also, consider: Mary may have outlived all the authors of Scripture save St. John, plus, almost every scrap of Scripture was passed on via Tradition until it was codified in the 4th century…

        1. If the immaculate conception is on Dec. 8 and the birth of Jesus is on Dec. 25, as catholics claim, is this logical & physiologically correct? natural pregnancy is more or less nine months

          1. The Immaculate Conception is when Mary was conceived.. Not Jesus. Jesus was conceived on the date of the Annunciation. The Annunciation is celebrated on March 25th… 9 months before Christmas….

    3. Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ, who is fully divine and fully human, one of the Three Persons of the Holy Trinity (One God) Jesus Christ our Lord is our God (Matthew 1:23 – “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”). Therefore, Mary deserves to be called the Mother of God (Theotokos) not because our God the Creator has a mother, for He is the source of all things, nothing and no one is to be called His source, but because she is the mother who bore Jesus Christ, our God (as said, Jesus Christ is one the Three Persons of the Holy Trinity in One God). This is in a sense that Mary carried in her womb a divine person—Jesus Christ God “in the flesh” (2 John 7, cf. John 1:14)—and in the sense that she contributed the genetic matter to the human form God took in Jesus Christ. Denying Mary as the Mother of God is equal to denying Jesus Christ’s divinity.

    4. Mary was also not sinless. If she was; then why did she say my Savior in the Magnificat? She was also a sinner who needed a Savior and died and is buried. Only our Savior was conceived without sin through the Holy Spirit. Also, Peter had a mother in law which is clearly stated in the Bible which means he was married and not the first pope. The rock that is stated means the earthly church not Peter. So sad that so many have been misled by previous popes making their own earthly determinations.

      1. Mary was spared from original sin, but it was still Christ’s Sacrifice that spared her. She like all of us needed his sacrifice for salvation.
        As for Peter being married? It could be many things. He could have been a widower, or he could have been married. I don’t see how his being married invalidates him as the first Pope.

        1. If a sinless vessel was required for Jesus to be born, then how was a sinless Mary born as her mother wasn’t a sinless vessel. There is no reason that Mary needs to be sinless, only that Jesus is. Jesus only is the perfect sacrifice, the innocent taking on the sins of the guilty…the perfect lamb as a sacrifice.

          1. God can create Mary sinless from sin parents.
            At the beginning, God created human sinless. Sin is not the nature of His creation. Sin came after, and from the evil’s temptations.
            If human nature is sin, there’s no need of evil.
            Many people can resist the temptations of evil with the grace of God, such as Enoch, Melchizedec, Elijah. And Mary is full of grace.

    5. Only Christ Himself has ascended to heaven and No one else. Elijah was transported to another place here on Earth for protection not taken to heaven and Mary was a virgin only until after Christ and we know that because biblical scripture says Jesus had brothers and sisters. A follower told Him, your brothers and sisters and your mother are outside and He responded my brothers and sisters and mother are these who believe that I am the Christ which means some of his own physical family did not believe.

    6. Melchizedek is not a God, but He created just like the Son of God.
      Hebrews 7:1, 3 (NET) Now this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, met Abraham as he was returning from defeating the kings and blessed him.
      Without father, without mother, without genealogy, he has neither beginning of days nor end of life but is like the son of God, and he remains a priest for all time.
      You should ask the writer of the Book of Hebrew, what’s the truth about the Melchizedec claim.

  17. If you read the revelations & apparitions of Vassula Ryden, Jesus explains this very well. In Revelation, the woman with a crown with 12 stars was our blessed mother. Again, its when we seek that we find hidden truths!

    1. I believe the woman is the nation of Israel and the child is Christ, because Jesus was of the tribe of Judah and there are 12 tribes in Israel.

    2. Jeremy, Mary cannot be the same with those people you mentioned – Peter, Moses, Abraham, etc because Jesus flesh and blood were not taken from them but from Mary. That is the reason why, Mary was sinless because her son, Jesus cannot offer a sacrificial blood for your salvation that is stained with sin! Otherwise what a waste of time for the Father to do all this when after all the sacrificial lamb, who is Jesus is stained with sin? Read the verse below that tells what happen if one is not under the law but under GRACE…
      Romans 6:14 says, for sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under the law but under grace. Meaning to say, that if a person is under GRACE, sin cannot function/operate in that person. So if this is the case – THAT SIN WILL HAVE NO DOMINION OVER A PERSON WHO IS UNDER GRACE – how much more with Mary who was told by the archangel Gabriel not only under GRACE but FULL OF GRACE?
      Another thing: Job 14:4 also says “No one can bring what is pure from the impure” So if Mary was impure then Jesus who was pure should not have been brought to Mary.

  18. I believe in celebasy and understand it fully, knowing, by my own experience that it is entirely possible to live a celebate life, even after having normal relationships, however, if a priest should fall in love, which is a natural phenomena that is God given, and if that love is reciprocated, it edges on to torment and cruelty to have such a gift denied to either the man or the woman, I am not talking about sexual desire, but rather the pull of two souls upon each other that has been experienced by both in a deeply spiritual way, triggering off emotional unrest an overpowering feelings for both. I realise that there are men, and they are after all men, who are able to sustain a fully celebate exsistance, and it is a wonderful thing if they can, however, no one ever knows when two souls, destined to be with one another might meet, and there should be some way for this to transpire by some kind of certified bonding that would allow a priest, like a soldier, to perform his duties as a priest, and come home to his certified partner on leave for periods of time. Both would have to be totally faithful or the whole thing would be unworthy .
    I suppose the irony of this possibility is that once it was put into practice that it may be abused, or that the whole celebasy thing would become a three ring circus where free love might predominate the system, so I guess I get it. On the other hand, there are priest who have entered the priesthood after they have been married, because they were formerly ministers rather than priest, and they perform as perfectly sincere priests, so where is the line drawn?

    1. A priest is married to the Church. He is not unmarried. Falling in love with another person while married is an affair and tantamount to adultery. Even if there is no sexual sin, no person would accept their spouse falling in love with another person, and it would be a grave dishonor for the spouse to claim that “it edges on to torment and cruelty to have such a gift denied to either the man or the woman.” No priests who took his vows seriously would ever claim to have a natural right to earthly marriage, any more than a man can claim it is unrealistic to expect husbands to be faithful for life. We are not animals with no control over our impulses, and we will be tempted. Perhaps such feelings are inevitable, but that does not make it beneficial, let alone natural.
      I like andouille sausage.I can eat them until I look like Jabba the Hut. That doesn’t make it natural.

      1. Mary was 67 when she died it does not say that in the Bible but its a fact.Matthew,Mark, Luke,John
        wrote the Gosples They testify to what was written in the Bible. Maybe after three days someone went to the grave and the body was not there,because its not in the Bible and this is thirty + years later it could be true.It would not surprise me as the Holy Spirit does wonders.

    2. Only Scripture matters. It is God’s Word to us while we are left on Earth. Anything any man makes up, written or not, a religious church leader or not, a pope or not, doesn’t matter a hill of beans. Mary, was chosen to give birth to the Earthly Christ but, she was a sinner, just like us all, in need of forgiveness just like all mankind. That is why our Creator, living in glory with his Heavenly Father, needed to be born on Earth, live & be tempted, as us all. So, yet being perfect, was put to death in our place, paid for our sin on the cross so much so that our Heavenly Father had to turn His face away from Him on the cross & the skies because darkened, because He cannot live with sin. We all have the opportunity to accept His gift of salvation, by believing, just as Mary had the opportunity to believe and be saved. It’s obvious she did believe He was as He said He was before and after his death on the cross. Those that bodies have died, are with Him in Heaven and their bodies will raised and changed to be like His at the calling out of the church at the rapture. The main thing to know, believe and remember is ONLY God’s Word is true.

        1. Randy said… “What do you base your statement that Mary was a sinner?”
          Matthew 19:17 — And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
          Romans 3:10 — As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
          Romans 3:23 — For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
          1 John 1:8 — If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
          Scripture is rather clear. Either Mary had sin (just like us) and needed a savior (just like us), or Mary was God. There’s no room for a middle ground on that.

          1. Luke 1:28-And he came to her and said, “Hail, full of grace.”
            Luke 1:42-Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb
            Isiah 12:1 and Zech. 2:10; Zeph. 3:14-16; all proclaim the Daughter of Zion who will bear the Son before the pain gets to her.
            She is the New Eve who was also, born without sin but Mary fulfilled the prophecy. How could it be that our Savior was born in a womb not clean?
            thank you for replying

          2. Randy, with all due respect, all of those verses deal specifically with how blessed Mary is — God’s nearness to Mary, not Mary’s nearness to God, nor how much “holier” Mary is than any of us. They do not in any way contradict the verses that say that all — to include Mary — have sin and fallen short of God’s glory, and that if we claim otherwise, we deceive ourselves.
            Those verses DO declare how Mary was particularly blessed, but the exact same could be said of Peter, the only man to have ever walked on water other than Jesus Himself. The same could be said of David, who God called a man after His own heart. The same could be said of Moses, the man to whom God Himself spoke and gave His Law to the world. The same could be said of Abraham, the only man specifically called the FRIEND of God. The same could be said of Noah, the only man (with his family) of all the world that God saved from the Flood. The same could be said of Enoch, who with Elijah was ascended into Heaven without dying on this earth.
            In fact, Jesus Himself declared similar blessings of John the Baptist…
            Matthew 11:11 — Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
            And yet, for all that John was Jesus’ own forerunner, John was beheaded for the faith. Do you know what John and all these other men have in common with Mary? They were all blessed of God in unique ways, set with a task that was uniquely theirs to fulfill. And what’s interesting about all these men — for all that they were blessed, they remained in need of the very Savior that Mary was blessed to carry. As the song goes, the Child that she delivered was sent to deliver her as well.
            You asked, “How could it be that our Savior was born in a womb not clean?” I ask how could He NOT be born of an unclean womb? Mary herself was TROUBLED by the angel’s appearance, and confused by the idea of how she, a virgin, could give birth to a savior. Are we to think that she, the supposed mother of God, was mistaken in that? Or fishing for unnecessary compliments from the angel?
            Jesus was born of an unclean womb because it is God Himself that makes us clean — that MUST make us clean. Oh, Mary IS indeed blessed among women, but no more blessed among saints than any saint is blessed. She is one with the rest of us sinners-saved-by-grace, not “above” us and unneeding of grace.

          3. Jeremy
            I appreciate you sharing your thoughts with me. I am adamant in maintaining that our Blessed Mother was the Immaculate Conception, remained pure and full of grace and there will be nothing to change my mind. You had mentioned David, Peter and the Apostles and what thing I would like to mention is that no where does it say in the Bible as straightforward as it was for them, that Mary sinned. You have encouraged me to read one of my many books that I’ve put off. Behold Your Mother by Tim Staples. What I”m willing to do is ask that you read the same book and if you don’t have a different view of Our Lady after reading it, I will compensate you directly, you have my word. I have not read it but am familiar with Mr Staples. May God continue blessing you Mr Jeremy.

          4. Scriptures tell stories about God’s favoured people:
            1. Genesis 5:24 (WEB) Enoch walked with God, and he was not found, for God took him.
            2. Hebrews 7:1, 3 (WEB) For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of God Most High, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,
            without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God), remains a priest continually.
            3. 2 Kings 2:11 (WEB) As they continued on and talked, behold, a chariot of fire and horses of fire separated them, and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
            There is room for the middle ground. Just like angels. Angels can sin? Yes, but they can be sinless too.
            Sin is not the nature of human.
            At the beginning of time, man and woman were created sinless.
            Sin came from evil. Unless you have different bible.
            You quoted Pauline epistle, I know. And I’m not contradicting the verse. Because maybe, only 7 people among billions of people throughout generations who are sinless, Adam and Eve before the temptations, Enoch, Melchizedek, Elijah, Mary and Jesus.

          5. If Mary the mother of Jesus was sinner, Jesus Himself would have been considered a sinner. He (Jesus) would have inherited sin from the time He was conceived through Mary.
            So you can either accept Mary as sinless and hence Jesus was sinless, or Mary was a sinner so was Jesus (which would totally against everything Jesus our saviour stands for).
            Scripture is logical in all dimensions. When your ideology contradicts the scripture or the nature of Jesus, then you should know exactly that your reasoning or belief is wrong.

      1. You don’t know. And a great sign was seen in the heavens. A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon was under her feet, and upon her head was a crown of twelve stars. Revelations.

    3. My dear priesthood is different either u are married to d church or u leave priesthood n marry to a woman. It’s d task u are aware of n wen love comes along u just have to chose one. Remember it’s a life dedicated to God n humanity

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